Andrew Black

Exactly.

And Arizona actually distinguishes a burglary of an occupied structure versus a burglary of an unoccupied structure.

Now, you can look at the FBI statistics about how infrequent, in fact, there has never been a recorded case

where there's been a burglary gone wrong where the burglary suspects end up kidnapping an elderly woman and keeping her alive it just it's a unicorn it just doesn't happen and we know that she was alive when she left because the blood trail uh led to the door and then suddenly just stopped like they were putting their hand over her mouth uh and this has there's no indication

No signs and symptoms that this was a burglary gone wrong.

So we do need to look at motive here.

And it's good that we can cross this motive off.

Now we have to look at was this based on money?

Was this based on something else?

And only once we determine motive can we kind of narrow down who the suspects may be.

Yeah, Derek Colella from San Diego was charged with two counts submitting a fake ransom note to Nancy, sorry, to Savannah Guthrie.

And he faces up to 20 years in prison.

Uh for those counts and I was really happy that the us attorney here Uh, you know threw the book at him, you know, they needed to set an example uh, because

These types of things can really derail an investigation.

It takes time and resources away from investigating real leads.

And here with this new ransom note, what I want to know is what indicators are there that they have new information that has not been released to the public?

Or are there personal anecdotes that could be provided by Nancy Guthrie herself to show that she's still alive?

We just don't have any of that information here.

And I have to agree with my colleagues that I'm very skeptical at this point in time that this is a legitimate ransom note.