Andrew Callaghan

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The Jordan Harbinger Show · 1156: Andrew Callaghan | Documenting America's Shadow Self · 20 May 2025 podcast

Yeah, I've gone through a couple different business fallouts. One of them in particular, the two people in it quit while simultaneously both owning a significant share. But there was a loophole in the contract where they could quit and resign from their duties while retaining economic interest in the company. So I had to complete their resignation by accepting a buyout offer for their share.

So it's like stuff like that that made me very wary. Now, moving forward, I have a lawyer draft like a perfect agreement for everything, whether it's a work for hire editor, a camera person. I just make sure that there's no room for error.

I think that for one, people who gravitate toward conspiracy theories, even if they masquerade as being very angry, it's actually collective self-soothing because they could appear angry, but they're very united in their belief in the perseverance of the human spirit, specifically the human ability to keep secrets.

In a world full of random variables where every single day loose-lipped clout chasers and people who are just leaking stuff on Signal are throwing totally straightforward operations off track in a catastrophic way, the conspiracy mind frame tells people there's someone with a plan.

And the conspiracy way of thinking doesn't make you do the intellectual legwork of actually identifying who these people are. So you say, all right, there's someone that's a demonic force, but the point is someone's got a plan. And so I think that a lot of people who gravitate toward conspiracy movements, their life has fallen apart.

And so they can hold on to certain nuggets of truth and draw a correlation where it doesn't exist to prove some kind of order because poverty and decay comes with an existential crisis and conspiracy theories offer a bandaid for that.

except the random, chaotic, and horrific nature of humankind that nobody knows what's going on. And the idea that there is a shadowy cabal of unknown figures that are making very deliberate, coordinated plans every day is comforting to some people. And for the Planned Parenthood stuff, there's some truth to what's being said. Let's keep it real.

Planned Parenthood does, in fact, have some system set up where they donate some of the embryos and the fetuses that are aborted to science for research purposes.

Yeah. They do that at the morgue, too. Yeah. There's organ donors. There's plenty of situations like that. But they're not selling the baby's parts. You can look at it how you want, but they're definitely not selling them to a cabal of satanic Epstein Island residents who are then using them for ritual purposes.

So it's when you draw certain correlations, there could be an argument to say, I don't think any people who have passed away, whether it's a fetus or a living human old person. You could argue that their bodies shouldn't be given to anybody for research purposes. If that's your stance, you think once people rest in peace, I don't want cremation, let them decompose safely in a casket.

That's a normal position to have if that's how you feel. But the conspiratorial way of thinking is no, this is actually just the tip of the iceberg to a far darker situation.

Every catastrophic generational event is a big conspiracy pilling moment for the masses. For us, it was probably 9-11, the Iraq war. These are all situations that create despair, whether it be people dying overseas, COVID, obviously, massive economic recession, social isolation, all of these things, the LA fires.

There's plenty of collectively traumatic events that cause people to ask questions because they're upset. That's a perfect time for someone to be fed disinformation.

When things go bad, people look for answers and then there's lots of theories that are floating around because people are desperate to find answers. And like I said, the conspiracy route gives people an easy answer to complicated questions.

Yeah, like I said, you don't have to do the intellectual legwork of identifying exactly whose plan it was, but it was somebody's plan, the evil nebulous force that is trying to take everything from the hardworking American patriot. For Kelly, the 2008 recession and the economic fallout after that was probably his catalyst.

I ran into him at a White Lives Matter rally in 2021 in Huntington Beach, California. But to clarify, he wasn't a part of the white supremacist group that was planning to show up. So what happened? It was like the boomerang effect, right, where Antifa and Black Lives Matter showed up to counter protest the Klansmen. I see.

He's like on the third string MAGA group chat being like, Antifa is at the pier. So he's showing up to confront Antifa thinking it's an Antifa rally, but they're there to confront the Klansmen who never showed up. I think the FBI calls it a honeypot.

The four banger. So there's... The four banger is Kelly's Battlestaff. It's a Sherwin-Williams extendable flagpole. It has four flags on it. There's the All Lives Matter aborted baby flag. I think there's blue line. Gadsden, don't tread on me flag. And of course, the American flag.

So I theorize in the movie that there are three core needs, security, significance, and connection. Security is like a home, an actual roof over your head, a bed to sleep on. Significance is like your place in society. It's typically in line with employment or creative contribution. For me, I find significance in doing journalism.

Even right now, you're interviewing me on a podcast, like your show is part of your significance. Your security is where you lay your head at night. Connection is the third most important need, and that is something that's not related to security or significance. And that's like human connection, being loved by another person, your partner, your children, your grandparents.

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