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Andrew Chatterton

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Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

So all those people.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

Six or seven people.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

So Jennifer told me, so the daughter, Irene's daughter, Jennifer said, basically I didn't believe what mum was saying, but then I was thinking about my childhood and she suddenly some stories from, you know, memories from her childhood started to make sense.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

In the fifties, a pots and pans salesman came to their house and her mum was like a, you know, wouldn't say boo to a goose, lovely,

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

housewife this pots and pans salesman was really aggressive in his sales pattern put his foot in the door so her mum couldn't shut it and then Jennifer remembers this pots and pans salesman basically sailing through the air because her mum had performed some kind of unarmed combat move on him and suddenly all her staff started to make sense without how the hell did she know how to do that

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

So there's another lady called Priscilla Ross in Hornchurch.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

She was 18 in 1940.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

She said almost exactly the same as Irene Lockley, taught how to make Molotov cocktails, how to derail trains, how to use the grot.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

her little base was in a church in Hornchurch.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

And to gain access to it, there was one of the gravestones in the graveyard.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

You push over and that opened it.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

You had stairs going out and there'd be like a secret crypt under the church.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

And that's where those guys were based.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

And these tend to be in towns and villages where the Yorkshire units tend to be in the countryside a bit more.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

So yeah, this is right on top of occupation.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

I think there's a few things, I think.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

So one, they all signed the Official Secrets Act, and they're of that generation of, if I sign the Official Secrets Act, I am not telling anyone.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

For the auxiliary units particularly, if you think about the first people they would have to assassinate,

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

local policeman, intelligence officer, people who have accidentally found your bunker, an elderly couple, that's not something in the 50s or late 40s that you're going to boast about and tell people.

Chatabix
Specialist Guest: WW2 Historian Andrew Chatterton

There's an element of guilt about that as well.