Andrew East

The maintenance costs are probably gonna be lower than the startup costs.

So like, don't be always jumping, looking for the next new thing.

Just like, what if you just stuck to this thing, put your head down and understood that there's valleys, there's peaks.

And when you accumulate all those,

you build this deep meaning at the end of this, when you're like, you've, you've committed to one thing, whether that be a career, a relationship, a hobby, whatever.

Um, it's like really beautiful.

And, and it leads to this journey that, uh, I think has, has brought so much fruit to our life.

Your question makes me think like that.

The idea of grabbing the steering wheel back for me has always come out of a place of like this desperation or maybe this urgency of like, oh no, but I can't let you do this to me right now.

And

It makes me think of, Sean talks about how she had to do something like 16,000 reps to stick this certain movement on a balance beam, which I think is the craziest.

I think that's the craziest event in any sport where you're trying to do backflips on a four-inch wide beam.

But just this concept that...

she's not going to get it right the first time.

And it's going to actually, she's not even going to do it on the balance beam the first time.

And it's like this growing process.

And like, there's this try, fail, try, fail, try, fail.

That's not urgent.

It's over the course of years that you learn this.

And when I started applying that concept to how we had conversations, it made me a little more curious to...