Andrew Gallimore

But I think it's all about interaction between your brain, I think.

Yeah, I think that's probably true.

Well, I think they might have perfected the technology.

A million years ago, you see.

So you wouldn't expect necessarily a change in the last 50 years.

Exactly.

The whole thing is baffling and paradoxical, and none of it kind of makes sense.

I think if we were able to view this phenomenon from a God's eye view, it would all kind of, oh, right, that makes sense.

I think, yeah, I see reality as a kind of game in a way.

I get the feeling that reality is in some sense playful.

And that's an ancient idea.

I mean, that goes back to the ancient kind of Hindu philosophy, the idea of Brahman, the ultimate reality, playing at creating the universes.

They call it Leela.

The idea that creating, you know, Brockman is the ultimate reality.

He or it or they doesn't have to create reality.

It could just exist in perfect, you know, but in pure unadulterated perfection, you know, complete unending bliss.

But instead, it decides to kind of to create realities, to get lost for fun.

To get lost.

And we're kind of... We are part of... Everything is Brockman, as they say.

Everything is the ultimate reality.