Andrew Gallimore

But our hope was that actually over time, if you stabilize the DMT in the brain, that it would actually stabilize the experience.

Then people can actually navigate and explore the space and even perform kind of experiments within the space.

And this is what's become known as DMTX.

Well, so this first study that was done just a couple of years ago, as I said, by Imperial College London, it was like a pilot study.

They wanted to show that it worked and that it was safe, that it was tolerable, that people weren't going crazy, that they could handle it, basically.

The very first person to do it was a guy I'm now working with.

I work for a nonprofit called New Nautics out of Florida, and we're very interested in designing experiments using DMTX to actually...

study the DMT space and the intelligences within them much more kind of formally.

And on the board, I work with a guy called Carl Smith, who was the very first person to undergo DMT-X.

He was also the only person to complete, I think there was five sessions over several weeks.

He was the only one who handled it, so to speak.

What's his name?

Carl Smith.

Shout out to Carl.

You fucking pirate, are you?

You know, but what's interesting is that

As we hoped and predicted, the DMT state, it does stabilize.

It's like the brain is settling into constructing this alternate world model, interfacing with this intelligence.

And he found that as he went back every time, he was interacting with the same entities.

And they became aware of the fact that he was coming back so often.