Andrew Heaton

You have to remember, I've made a career out of claiming the government's incompetence.

So that is my general default position.

No, I'd say that's illegal and unconstitutional.

You are arguing that the Obama administration was very competent then.

Can you flush out for me what you see Trump's foreign policy as?

What I mean by that is when he was running in 2016, I was hanging out with lots of libertarians.

The pro-Trump argument amongst the libertarian crowd was Hillary's a known war hawk.

Trump is an isolationist.

Vote for Trump.

You're going to get peace.

But I wouldn't describe this term as isolationist.

But at the same time, we're not going into full-blown war.

So I'm trying to figure out what's going on.

I'm an intervention skeptic.

So that is to say, the default is no.

You might be able to talk me into it.

Where I struggle with that analysis of Trump is it does sound like it requires me to sign off an intentionality of looking at what were the intentions of the Obama administration, what are the intentions of the Trump administration.

I don't really like either.

And so it's harder for me to put that into a rubric that I can follow.

But the basic idea would just be whatever is strategically the best thing for America.