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THE KILLING HAS JUST BEGUN w/ Andrew Heaton

24 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the current situation with the Mexican cartel and government forces?

5.853 - 33.173 Tim Pool

Chaos in Mexico. U.S. tourists are currently trapped. Airlines are shutting down. Insane videos of car bombs, explosions, fires, gunshots ringing out, people running and screaming in airports. All of this in retaliation for killing a cartel leader that some say, well, I should say, according to some reports, was at the behest of Donald Trump. who continued by saying it's only just begun.

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25 Mexican National Guard were killed in these attacks, and it is expected to continue. Right now, we're getting reports that security forces are currently still battling cartel members, and it's popping off across the country. Now, I would argue it seems the cartel's retaliation is basically we have ended all tourism in Mexico.

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55.532 - 73.15 Tim Pool

I mean, there's no possibility of you flying down to driving to Tijuana, flying down to Puerto Vallarta and having any kind of relaxing day because people are being told shelter in place. It's kicking off. Donald Trump and the rest of the Trump admin are not going to back down from this. So we don't know exactly where this will go.

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But some have said this could effectively be some kind of civil war. I said it, but not for the reason you thought I would. Now, I don't know if you'd call it a civil war, but the cartels control various territories. There's different cartels all over Mexico. And many have argued it's effectively a narco state because the government bends the knee to these cartels anytime they demand it.

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We've seen all of these stories about mayors and politicians being killed when they try to stand up. Now that Trump has effectively said, if you actually I'm pretty sure we have to report Trump did say this. The Trump admin told Mexico, if you don't stop the cartels, we will. So Mexico launches an operation. They kill El Mencho. And this is kicking off like crazy.

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There's no reason to believe it's going to stop. And so, again, tourism may be effectively over. We're going to talk about that. But boy, oh boy, do we have a lot of news for you, my friends. At Mar-a-Lago, a man with a shotgun and fuel breached the perimeter, reportedly aimed the weapon, and then was shot and killed.

Chapter 2: How does Trump's administration respond to cartel violence?

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Now, according to TMZ, his motivation may have been the Epstein files. Getting absolutely crazy, my friends. The UK has arrested the former ambassador to the US from Britain over the Epstein file revelations. He was leaking financial information to Jeffrey Epstein. Holy crap. And then the US beat Canada in hockey. Now, all those other stories are crazy, terrifying.

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But the one I know most Americans care about is that we gave a thorough trouncing to Canada in their game. And there's a viral tweet where, I don't know, Trudeau or somebody was like, you know, you can try and take our country, but you'll never take a game from us. And now everyone's retweeting it. And the White House posted an image of a bald eagle crushing a Canada goose to death.

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So, yeah, there's that. And still, we got a lot of news. In response, the U.S. men's team has agreed to attend the State of the Union address tomorrow. And the women's team just can't find time in their schedules to do it, sparking a major backlash. Oh, boy, we got a lot for you today. So we're going to get a lot. But before we do, we got a great sponsor tonight.

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Chapter 3: What implications does cartel violence have on tourism in Mexico?

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You know, we've got a lot coming up to break down. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Andrew Heaton.

335.525 - 348.807 Andrew Heaton

Hey, good to be back. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do? I am a political satirist. I make jokes about news and politics. I host a political podcast called The Political Orphanage, so-called, because I don't really like teams.

348.787 - 373.41 Ian Crossland

so every everybody hates you then everybody everybody hates me i am either a traitor or an infidel to everybody well all right well should be fun then we'll have a good time hanging out we got we got ian here so you leave a memorable impression because it's i guess you said it's been four years since you've been here but i feel like i saw you pretty free pretty i have thought about nothing but graphene since i last spoke to you lighting me up andrew from the inside well i i

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I'm going to let him know. I mean, when he got here, his hair was perfectly done, but when he saw Ian, he started just shaking graphene, and they both started freaking out.

Chapter 4: How do the hosts view the impact of U.S. policies on Mexican cartels?

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Security forces keep up fight with cartel gunmen a day after the Mexican military killed a drug lord. This is reported from the APA, in fact. They say tourist shops in Tapalpa were open Monday and workers were on the job, but gunshots also rang out. And in the street was a dead man lying beside a bullet pocked vehicle.

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Meanwhile, heavily armed Mexican security forces kept up the battle with cartel gunmen following the killing that sparked a surge in violence and put the country on edge. I mean, these videos that are popping up are just absolutely nuts. We've got this one allegedly from Tijuana. I don't know exactly. Take it all with a grain of salt. Excuse me. This does appear to be the Tijuana border.

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You can see the border fence. And we don't know if this is from today, but I don't see why it would not be.

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In Tijuana, Mexico, the cartel are blocking roads by setting cars on fire.

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This is a few miles from San Diego along the border. And this area in Baja, California is controlled by the, how do you pronounce it? Jalisco? Jalisco, I believe. Jalisco? I don't know how to pronounce that stuff. The cookie manufacturer? Have I got that right? Nabisco. My bad.

474.665 - 476.828 Carter Banks

Continue. Close. Very close.

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They're smuggling cookies into this country. You know, I mean, the videos that are coming out are absolutely insane. And this is the effective end of tourism in Mexico.

487.824 - 490.048 Phil Labonte

No Costco is safe in Mexico now.

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Listen. This is the cartel is basically saying you hit us, we hit you back. But this is not just this is strategic. They're they're firing guns in airports. They're burning vehicles in the middle of the street in key tourist destinations. They want the Mexican government to look at this and think we are about to go broke because tourism to Puerto Vallarta to to Tijuana.

Chapter 5: Why can't Gen Z afford homes?

3617.282 - 3623.553 Andrew Heaton

So wait, why are you thinking that housing has gotten more expensive because of free trade?

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3623.673 - 3636.215 Tim Pool

No, no, no. What I said was Gen Z can't afford to buy a house or have a family. The question of why houses are getting more expensive is because we're living longer and boomers have investment properties. They don't want it to go down. That's a supply issue, right?

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Well, technically, yes, but I mean it's largely based on – I'm not putting the blame on anybody over the fact that in order to actually get houses to lower cost, which I wouldn't necessarily call a supply issue – It's more of a, it's a question of can Gen Z make enough money to compete with the interests of boomers? The answer is no.

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And I think the reason is we've destroyed the jobs that they would normally get.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of AI on job markets?

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They don't exist anymore. And we tell women, you want to be rich, get naked and have sex on camera. And a bunch of girls are trying. It doesn't work for them. And now the worst thing about that, AI just knocked all them out of a job.

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3670.36 - 3690.446 Andrew Heaton

Well, I'm happy to talk about OnlyFans. Cyber-industrialization. I'd say the main problem with housing is we don't have a housing policy. We have an investment policy. We want to treat houses as the principal investment vehicle of the entire country. The problem with that is if you want all houses to increase in value forever, which is what we want, then you can't have cheap houses.

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3690.546 - 3693.329 Andrew Heaton

Well, they will, though, because land is finite and population grows.

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3693.69 - 3710.222 Tim Pool

But when population retracts, these houses will implode and nothing can stop it. Yeah, that probably will happen to America. So I guess my question for you is— Ultimately, there is one simple disagreement between us, regardless of what our view on economic policy is. I have a vision of America that is rooted in the American tradition, and you don't.

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3711.265 - 3723.705 Andrew Heaton

I agree to disagree on that one. No, I think individual liberty, free trade and, you know, comparative advantage are pretty rooted in the American experience.

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But that's all money.

Chapter 7: How does automation affect the workforce?

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I mean, it'd be great if a Chinese guy got those advantages right. Then you can have a communist party that externally is doing those things you describe. That's not what I'm talking about. And that's the point I'm making. My view of American tradition is not we have a fiscal policy that the founding fathers agreed with.

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It's that I wake up in the morning with snow falling around open Christmas presents, and we have apple pie baking sitting on a windowsill, and I go outside and I watch people playing baseball.

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3747.72 - 3764.704 Andrew Heaton

Those are nice. They're spiritual and emotional arguments. They're spiritual. I think the government should be protecting you from crime and should be enforcing contracts. It should be stopping fraud, negative externalities like pollution. But I don't think the government should protect you from competition. What about monopoly? No, no, no.

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3764.744 - 3774.955 Tim Pool

Again, I'm advancing this to the soul of a nation, not the fiscal policy. The fiscal policy is a component of the argument, but my point is this.

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3775.095 - 3777.538 Andrew Heaton

We're now switching from policy to sort of ideology.

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Which is why I said the key distinction between us is that I have a view of what makes America America based on its American tradition, and you argued for policies based on American policy tradition. I have no interest in the United States becoming an Islamic nation where women have to wear the Kaaba.

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Yes, me neither.

Chapter 8: What is the future of American manufacturing?

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Well, go to Dearborn, Michigan, and tell me what you see.

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3796.4 - 3800.068 Andrew Heaton

I don't think that's super germane to the free trade thing.

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3800.409 - 3812.755 Tim Pool

The point is, why did we have 20 million people on the high estimate? You know what? I'm going to pause and go low estimate. Why did we have 10 million people be allowed to enter this country illegally under the Biden administration?

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3813.646 - 3832.871 Andrew Heaton

Biden screwed up where he decided that—hold on, real quick. We'll talk about immigration in a moment. In terms of the spiritual defending things thing, let's say that there's an industry that—like, I work in entertainment. Like, you're a journalist, but we're kind of broadly in the same media family, right?

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3832.971 - 3843.805 Andrew Heaton

Like, if stand-up comedy became less popular, I wouldn't want the government to prop it up. And I do stand-up comedy, right? Agreed. I would question what you have done with your industry and why you couldn't make it more popular. Right.

3843.865 - 3853.9 Andrew Heaton

And if they're, same thing, if there are manufacturers that are making buggy whips or are making saddles and people don't want to ride horses as much, I don't think that there's any onus on the government to protect those industries.

3854.161 - 3877.153 Tim Pool

And so what I see is a willingness of libertarians, short-term gains, burning the country down. I don't think they're short. I mean, let me ask you this. Yeah. What if Americans stopped listening to American comedy because the Chinese comics were just funnier? Now, the thing is, we get more comedy and then all the people start adopting Chinese communist views.

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They start voting for communism and then they have you arrested because 10 years ago you said something naughty.

3883.188 - 3897.592 Andrew Heaton

I feel like we're getting into civil liberties now. I would very much stand with you in First Amendment protection. This is the problem I have with libertarians. One plus one equals two. Tim, as podcasters, we're already in competition with the entire planet. You and I are in competition with porn any minute.

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