Andrew Jarecki

$450 million a year.

Is that right?

Yeah.

And it's really forced labor, right?

Because you can say, well, I don't feel like working today.

And they can put you in solitary confinement.

They regularly do that.

They will regularly, essentially, extend your sentence by giving you disciplinaries.

So they'll put you in an institution where you can be beaten to death, as Stephen Davis was in our film.

And so it's not very different than...

what we saw in the earlier days in America.

You know, there's not a lot of difference between this and convict leasing or anything like that.

Well, it's a scam.

And I think the men inside want to be hopeful.

We learned that there were statistics that Alabama does not track for reasons that are obvious when you see the film.

But for example, people who are deemed safe enough

to be given the opportunity to go work in the community.

And Alabama essentially leases people out, not just to be the guys that are managing the prison and helping with the food and stuff like that, which maybe people could understand.

They also send them out to work on road crews, construction crews, to work at the governor's mansion and clean up and do landscaping.

And they also send them to work at McDonald's and at Burger King and at the Hyundai parts company.