Andrew Klavan

I mean, that's just like depressing.

So I don't know what there is to say about it.

Let's go back to Sabrina Carpenter, actually.

Yeah, I was going to say, Ben, I was agreeing with you up until the last five words you said and what you said there.

So I kind of agree with the premise, but I come to the opposite conclusion because I also have trouble complaining or getting angry at the Democrats or something like this.

When they have power, they're going to use it to advance their interests.

They're going to use it ruthlessly as part of the story with the SPLC also.

Now that's totally corrupt and people should go to prison for it.

But the lesson is kind of Noel's point also earlier is that

When they have power, they're going to ruthlessly use it to advance their own agenda.

And if they're able to gerrymander, they're gonna do it.

If they're able, whatever they can do to advance their agenda, they're gonna do it.

That's the lesson here.

And for us to sort of impotently sit back and say, no, you shouldn't, that's not fair.

It's totally pointless, they're going to.

Our message instead should be,

To the Republicans, hey, this is what the Democrats do when they have power.

You have power right now.

We still control Congress and the White House.

You have power right now.