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Andrew Marantz

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Well, for one thing, we compare him to Oppenheimer because he compares himself to Oppenheimer.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Constantly.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Constant throughout the rhetoric before OpenAI existed for why it needed to exist, there's this constant thread of analogies to the Manhattan Project.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So when he emails Elon Musk out of the blue in May of 2015,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

He says, hi, Elon.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

This is Sam.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

He says, I think we need a Manhattan Project for AI.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And it does have this dual-edged nature to it, which is both we're going to be the good guys and defeat the bad guys, right?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Yeah, but so in this case, instead of the Nazis, it's –

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

either China in a national security context or Google in a competitive corporate context.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

ChatGPT is a useful tool that can help you write emails and...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

AGI is supposed to be able to do any cognitive task that any person can do arguably better.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So it's general because it can not only write emails or play chess, but it can also...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

discover new drugs or solve new medical problems or break new ground in physics.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So we're not quite there yet.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Yeah.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

He, in a sense, you know, what every entrepreneur does is, you know, bring together technical talent and investors and merge them into a solvent company.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So in that sense, it's not that remarkable.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I think what makes him unusual is he's not bringing this kind of

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

bull in a china shop you know he's not elon musk or jeff bezos and just saying i'm gonna bulldoze my way to power he brings this kind of subtle sales pitch around 2014 2015 2016 where the public is feeling kind of burned out on the bluster of tech tycoons you know everyone's suddenly mad at social media uh republicans for stifling their speech and democrats for giving us trump and whatever

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