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Andrew Marantz

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
736 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

But even on a micro scale. There was a radio station that he wanted to get rid of when he first came into office. It was tied up in the courts until 2021, and then he finally shut it down. So I think, sure, the fact that the wind seems to be at the back of some of the resistance stuff this week is notable and I think hopeful.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And to be clear about my position, I don't think it's like we're cooked and it's over. But... I mean, basically what I think the goal should be is, you know, there's one of these great Orwell aphorisms. It's sort of overused, but I think for a good reason. Seeing what's in front of one's nose needs a daily struggle.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And to be clear about my position, I don't think it's like we're cooked and it's over. But... I mean, basically what I think the goal should be is, you know, there's one of these great Orwell aphorisms. It's sort of overused, but I think for a good reason. Seeing what's in front of one's nose needs a daily struggle.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And I think to see things clearly, you need to not be writing backwards from the end of the story.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And I think to see things clearly, you need to not be writing backwards from the end of the story.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And they get paraded out at events.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And they get paraded out at events.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Yeah, I think that basically sounds right, and it explains how the figure of Soros or the international Jew is kind of used in different ways. I mean, you don't have to look much further than Elon Musk doing what looked a lot like something that sort of seemed like a Roman salute, and then... And then Steve Bannon doing it. And then Steve Bannon doing it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Yeah, I think that basically sounds right, and it explains how the figure of Soros or the international Jew is kind of used in different ways. I mean, you don't have to look much further than Elon Musk doing what looked a lot like something that sort of seemed like a Roman salute, and then... And then Steve Bannon doing it. And then Steve Bannon doing it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

You have said the absolute truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

You have said the absolute truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Breaking that news here. But I do think that it's important to have that framework. It gets to this point of ambiguity, hybridity, plausible deniability. What are you? Are you anti the Jews or are you for the Jews? You know, it cuts against this idea of a kind of clean, quantifiable checklist. And also it cuts against the idea of

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Breaking that news here. But I do think that it's important to have that framework. It gets to this point of ambiguity, hybridity, plausible deniability. What are you? Are you anti the Jews or are you for the Jews? You know, it cuts against this idea of a kind of clean, quantifiable checklist. And also it cuts against the idea of

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

you know, did Columbia fully exceed and did Harvard fully join the resistance, right? Before Harvard became the hero of the resistance, they adopted the IHRA definition of antisemitism. They kicked out the head of their Middle East study center. All of this, you know, what Tim Snyder would call anticipatory obedience. And then the administration pushed them too far, maybe by accident.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

you know, did Columbia fully exceed and did Harvard fully join the resistance, right? Before Harvard became the hero of the resistance, they adopted the IHRA definition of antisemitism. They kicked out the head of their Middle East study center. All of this, you know, what Tim Snyder would call anticipatory obedience. And then the administration pushed them too far, maybe by accident.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And then they joined the resistance, right? So it's always hybridity all the way down, I would say.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

And then they joined the resistance, right? So it's always hybridity all the way down, I would say.

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Look, I used to, we used to call it the alt-right. Now it's called the right. And they are playing with taboos in ways that I think are multiple things at once. Some of it is just the old-fashioned troll, you know, can't you take a joke? You know, this isn't actually what you think it is. Or can't you take

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Look, I used to, we used to call it the alt-right. Now it's called the right. And they are playing with taboos in ways that I think are multiple things at once. Some of it is just the old-fashioned troll, you know, can't you take a joke? You know, this isn't actually what you think it is. Or can't you take

The Ezra Klein Show
Is Trump Losing? A Debate

Yeah. Are you too scared to talk about taboo things? Can't we just push the boundaries, right? Those things all kind of redound to the political benefit of the movement that is, you know, transgression and the thrill of forbidden knowledge is one of the most appealing things in the rhetorical playbook.