Andrew Marantz

Thank you so much, Tanya. So good to be back.

Yeah, it's interesting. I listened to that episode, and he was being very deferential. I think it's also really funny the way you introduced it as Gavin Newsom joining the Manosphere, because it's not clear what that means exactly, other than people talking in an unscripted way. So I understand the reaction to things like Gavin Newsom deferring to Charlie Kirk too much.

Yeah, it's interesting. I listened to that episode, and he was being very deferential. I think it's also really funny the way you introduced it as Gavin Newsom joining the Manosphere, because it's not clear what that means exactly, other than people talking in an unscripted way. So I understand the reaction to things like Gavin Newsom deferring to Charlie Kirk too much.

Yeah, it's interesting. I listened to that episode, and he was being very deferential. I think it's also really funny the way you introduced it as Gavin Newsom joining the Manosphere, because it's not clear what that means exactly, other than people talking in an unscripted way. So I understand the reaction to things like Gavin Newsom deferring to Charlie Kirk too much.

My guess is that what he's trying to show is kind of modeling a... I'm not afraid. I can swim into uncharted waters. I think people like Newsom are guessing that they'll fare better if they are willing to go out and engage and show that they're not afraid. And I mean, this is something that I heard from multiple people in the piece.

My guess is that what he's trying to show is kind of modeling a... I'm not afraid. I can swim into uncharted waters. I think people like Newsom are guessing that they'll fare better if they are willing to go out and engage and show that they're not afraid. And I mean, this is something that I heard from multiple people in the piece.

My guess is that what he's trying to show is kind of modeling a... I'm not afraid. I can swim into uncharted waters. I think people like Newsom are guessing that they'll fare better if they are willing to go out and engage and show that they're not afraid. And I mean, this is something that I heard from multiple people in the piece.

Just the idea of showing up and holding your own and humanizing yourself in many instances is almost more important than what you say, at least to a certain type of voter.

Just the idea of showing up and holding your own and humanizing yourself in many instances is almost more important than what you say, at least to a certain type of voter.

Just the idea of showing up and holding your own and humanizing yourself in many instances is almost more important than what you say, at least to a certain type of voter.

Yeah, so just to start from defining terms. So manosphere is, like a lot of internet terms, pretty ill-defined, and it keeps changing. So often, originally, when people used the term, it was for really, really extreme, hateful stuff, right? So it was for... Andrew Tate, who is a proud misogynist, defines himself that way, has been accused of human trafficking. Really, really, really bad dude.

Yeah, so just to start from defining terms. So manosphere is, like a lot of internet terms, pretty ill-defined, and it keeps changing. So often, originally, when people used the term, it was for really, really extreme, hateful stuff, right? So it was for... Andrew Tate, who is a proud misogynist, defines himself that way, has been accused of human trafficking. Really, really, really bad dude.

Yeah, so just to start from defining terms. So manosphere is, like a lot of internet terms, pretty ill-defined, and it keeps changing. So often, originally, when people used the term, it was for really, really extreme, hateful stuff, right? So it was for... Andrew Tate, who is a proud misogynist, defines himself that way, has been accused of human trafficking. Really, really, really bad dude.

And so often when people talked about the manosphere, they would talk about that. But then it kind of migrated into people who are, you know, conservatives on gender roles or who don't even have like gender content. that they often bring up, but maybe are just into things that are commonly coded as dude stuff, you know, video games or hunting or, you know, lifting weights or whatever.

And so often when people talked about the manosphere, they would talk about that. But then it kind of migrated into people who are, you know, conservatives on gender roles or who don't even have like gender content. that they often bring up, but maybe are just into things that are commonly coded as dude stuff, you know, video games or hunting or, you know, lifting weights or whatever.

And so often when people talked about the manosphere, they would talk about that. But then it kind of migrated into people who are, you know, conservatives on gender roles or who don't even have like gender content. that they often bring up, but maybe are just into things that are commonly coded as dude stuff, you know, video games or hunting or, you know, lifting weights or whatever.

So all of that is kind of depending on who you're listening to, contained within that category. And there's no reason that the right has a monopoly inherently on being down to earth or being relatable. You know, it's been mentioned many times that people like Bernie Sanders have no problem going onto these shows and, in fact, have been criticized for going onto these shows.

So all of that is kind of depending on who you're listening to, contained within that category. And there's no reason that the right has a monopoly inherently on being down to earth or being relatable. You know, it's been mentioned many times that people like Bernie Sanders have no problem going onto these shows and, in fact, have been criticized for going onto these shows.

So all of that is kind of depending on who you're listening to, contained within that category. And there's no reason that the right has a monopoly inherently on being down to earth or being relatable. You know, it's been mentioned many times that people like Bernie Sanders have no problem going onto these shows and, in fact, have been criticized for going onto these shows.

So it's a bit of a caricature, but it's definitely one that's stuck. And I think we can now see in the data it's definitely one that hurt Kamala Harris in the last election.