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Andrew Marantz

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So a lot of it is going into data centers.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Data centers, right.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So they're building one in the UAE that is going to be seven times as big as Central Park and use about as much electricity as Miami.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Yeah, perfect for the environment.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

But don't worry because AGI is going to fix the environment.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Where you get your funding for a movie is...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

is different than where you put, as some people call it, a country of geniuses in a data center.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

In other words, if you really think that you're growing a new form of superintelligence... You want to keep it in the family.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Exactly.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Yeah, I think it's important to grasp how much of the initial pitch for this was based on this view of the world that has completely flipped over time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Because we think of it through the lens of, sure, businesses put out nice press releases and they say we're not going to be evil.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And then they redefine what they think is evil over time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

This is not that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Altman went to great lengths.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

to write blog posts, to convince people, to take people out to dinner, to say, I am the person you can trust to usher this technology into existence without literally killing everyone on Earth.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

That was literally the pitch.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So then for him now to say, we don't need to worry about all that Doomer stuff, it's kind of one of those either you were lying then or you're lying now.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

He might, but he didn't.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

What he says is he redefines the problem.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Yeah.