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Andrew Milgram

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

We came up with our own understanding of what an Uber driver's net earnings were.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And what also became pretty clear to us is that

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Uber was taking advantage of an information asymmetry.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So they understood that a driver didn't really understand the full picture of their cost structure and that they were making a very cash-based decision, but they were pushing a lot of those non-cash or non-immediate cash costs onto the driver.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

They were taking those liabilities on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And ultimately, when you adjusted earnings for all of that, the driver was really under-earning what they should.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And you also saw a lot of turnover in those days because I think drivers were coming to the conclusion over time that their own individual return on invested capital wasn't sufficient.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So we started to understand that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

In fact, when I was out talking to one 70-year-old garage owner who I think had grown up as a taxi driver, his father I think had bought medallions in the 30s.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

He said to me, Andrew, the reality is nobody's reinvented the economics of driving a car yet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And until that happens, taxis remain the most durable cash flow in the system.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And over time, we proved that out to ourselves, at least.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

We convinced ourselves and...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

obviously our investors, that what was available here was an unbelievable market that for lots of reasons had been under-invested in terms of operations.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So there'd been lots of leverage put into the system.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

I would say that folks who had owned medallions and operated fleets

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

had been extractive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So they hadn't been investing in the business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

They hadn't treated the driver the way they should.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

I used to begin every conversation with somebody in the space the same way.