Andrew Miller

So the more people that get to ride even once, the spell will be broken, and we'll see, of course, this is driving something a machine should be good at.

Why shouldn't I have a machine do it?

And that's a world, as you've alluded to, which will be safer, but it requires us to be comfortable with it.

So I hope that everyone listening to this podcast, the next time they are perhaps traveling for business or pleasure in a city where Waymo or Zoox or Tesla is operating, tries it out.

And I think they will see that this is, like they say about other AI, just another technology, a normal, boring technology.

So the good scenario would be Waymo and Zoox and Tesla have all, despite their different approaches, they've all reached scale.

So there's healthy competition in the robo-taxi market and every major metro.

Everyone is using them.

It's 40 to 50% less costly, which means that you travel more or you've got more discretionary income to spend on other things.

People are giving up their cars.

Every household that used to own two cars in an urban environment now owns one.

Every household that owned one car now owns none.

They use robo-taxis to fulfill the space of one of those cars.

Consequently, we've got less need for parking.

All the parking infrastructure and parking space can be redeveloped.

returned to other uses, higher and better uses than just vehicle storage.

And people are safer, fewer people are dying in road incidents, and they get a certain number of hours back every week that they can put to whatever purposes they want to.

So they are richer, but they're also freer in the sense they can more exercise those different parts of themselves.

Every automated vehicle in development that I'm aware of is electric.

So to the extent that you want to see a transition away from internal combustion engine cars, which I do, then that's a better world too.