Andrew Miller

Right.

So it's not going to go away overnight.

It'll be incremental.

And I still think that's to the good as those systems get better and better.

Once it reaches a point where it can drive better than us in all scenarios, why wouldn't we want that?

I cannot say that I do.

Well, some of what is lost is what you've just described.

It is a very American thing, the romance of the road, freedom, independence, the ability to go where you want and be in control of it.

There's another angle to it.

We don't have in contemporary liberal America rights of passage for young people anymore.

We don't have many of them.

One of them used to be learning to drive.

It was a sign that you are an adult.

We trust you with this very dangerous piece of machinery.

And when you can do it, you know that you've arrived.

And it's also, you know, what I suppose a philosopher would call embodied knowledge.

You aren't just a brain.

You're also moving this thing, and so you have to pay attention.

You've got to have good reflexes.

These are valuable things.