Andrew Revkin

So it's very different.

It's not a top-down thing.

And it wasn't a label of climate.

No, it wasn't.

It wasn't a climate thing.

Productive from whose standpoint?

Yeah.

Do you mean productive in terms of, yay, we banned it?

No, the alarmism over nuclear power dominated any alarmism over global warming.

Absolutely.

Oh, really?

Oh, yeah.

This is in the United States, Three Mile Island, then you had Chernobyl there.

And the traditional environmental movement still won't go there.

The big groups, NRDC, EDF, that whole alphabet soup of the big greens, are reluctant to put forward the nuclear option because they know a lot of their aging donors...

basically grew up in the thinking about nuclear as the problem, not the solution.

I lived for the last 30 years.

I moved to Maine recently, but I lived in the Hudson Valley, 10 miles from the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant, which was built in the 60s, 70s, and had some problems.

None of them were to the point of a meltdown or the threat of it, or even the theoretical possibility of one.

I was in it twice as a reporter, looking down in the cooling pool.