Andrew Rose (UK)

and and then started to wrap controls around all of those those pieces uh to make sure that we could be safe but it's it's interesting andrew talked about sort of anarchy and how long it takes with air traffic control we didn't worry about that too much but certainly when i was at mastercard um you know we were doing all these interbank transfers and we knew that it wouldn't be long if that's those systems failed you know if you couldn't go and buy you know food for your children how long would it be before you were smashing down the windows and just taking the food 48 hours something like that and so we knew that we were running systems which were critical

and and then started to wrap controls around all of those those pieces uh to make sure that we could be safe but it's it's interesting andrew talked about sort of anarchy and how long it takes with air traffic control we didn't worry about that too much but certainly when i was at mastercard um you know we were doing all these interbank transfers and we knew that it wouldn't be long if that's those systems failed you know if you couldn't go and buy you know food for your children how long would it be before you were smashing down the windows and just taking the food 48 hours something like that and so we knew that we were running systems which were critical

and had a really short time base before we created anarchy on the streets of our society. So it is something that people can build up a knowledge of, certainly, but it's not a natural thing. This OT security piece is still pretty rare. We talked about it at RSA, and there's not that many people around with this disability or this way to think through these situations from that angle.

and had a really short time base before we created anarchy on the streets of our society. So it is something that people can build up a knowledge of, certainly, but it's not a natural thing. This OT security piece is still pretty rare. We talked about it at RSA, and there's not that many people around with this disability or this way to think through these situations from that angle.

what they do and they're really good at it they have a long memory and they have a long reach to do so so don't be afraid to report if something happens so in terms of future threats from my perspective i think there's there's a couple and we've touched on some already actually i think the global threats the the nation-state threats against uh critical infrastructure are escalating um we're seeing you know nation states looking to impact the economies of the competitors and the the enemies as it were

what they do and they're really good at it they have a long memory and they have a long reach to do so so don't be afraid to report if something happens so in terms of future threats from my perspective i think there's there's a couple and we've touched on some already actually i think the global threats the the nation-state threats against uh critical infrastructure are escalating um we're seeing you know nation states looking to impact the economies of the competitors and the the enemies as it were

And this is being done in a multifaceted way, whether it's political intervention using disinformation, whether it's attacks on systems and capabilities just to undermine the trust in that society and create division. But I think, as Andrew mentioned, the food, agriculture environment is vulnerable to this and could be such a force multiplier.

And this is being done in a multifaceted way, whether it's political intervention using disinformation, whether it's attacks on systems and capabilities just to undermine the trust in that society and create division. But I think, as Andrew mentioned, the food, agriculture environment is vulnerable to this and could be such a force multiplier.

So we can expect really competent cyber attackers to start looking at this space. And that worries me because obviously the new technologies are coming out right now. And we've all talked about AI and all those sort of things in every other conversation we ever have. But those things are going to enable the attackers to amplify their capabilities.

So we can expect really competent cyber attackers to start looking at this space. And that worries me because obviously the new technologies are coming out right now. And we've all talked about AI and all those sort of things in every other conversation we ever have. But those things are going to enable the attackers to amplify their capabilities.

And we'll start to see hyper-personalized attacks coming in. So today that's always been talked about spear phishing. figures out that Kirsten likes skiing. And so we're going to invite her to the local skiing club or whatever it is. But that takes time for an attacker to do. So it's relatively rare.

And we'll start to see hyper-personalized attacks coming in. So today that's always been talked about spear phishing. figures out that Kirsten likes skiing. And so we're going to invite her to the local skiing club or whatever it is. But that takes time for an attacker to do. So it's relatively rare.

But actually with AI, hyper-personalization delivered in grammatical perfection with a really compelling lure and a compelling push linking back to news stories that you're interested in because they know what news stories you follow. That's Now that's on the verge of coming out.

But actually with AI, hyper-personalization delivered in grammatical perfection with a really compelling lure and a compelling push linking back to news stories that you're interested in because they know what news stories you follow. That's Now that's on the verge of coming out.

And then that could be supported by a deep fake video, which is your partner or your boss or someone like saying, you must do this. You must click on this link. So we're going to see all those new technologies being utilized in the next wave or two of cyber attacks being utilized by these very competent nation states to disrupt our societies. And again, agriculture is right in the middle of this.

And then that could be supported by a deep fake video, which is your partner or your boss or someone like saying, you must do this. You must click on this link. So we're going to see all those new technologies being utilized in the next wave or two of cyber attacks being utilized by these very competent nation states to disrupt our societies. And again, agriculture is right in the middle of this.

So I'm worried about where that goes. And I think the thing we need to do is we need to start raising awareness of the capabilities first. Because if people understand what a deep fake is, they understand what AI can do, then they're much better protected about it. They're more inoculated to the possibility because they go, oh, I've heard about it. This could be really weird, couldn't it?

So I'm worried about where that goes. And I think the thing we need to do is we need to start raising awareness of the capabilities first. Because if people understand what a deep fake is, they understand what AI can do, then they're much better protected about it. They're more inoculated to the possibility because they go, oh, I've heard about it. This could be really weird, couldn't it?

It doesn't look quite right. So we need to educate, definitely. But we also need to start building those controls in. Because Andrew and I have done a podcast together before, or a webinar, I think it was. And there was lots of discussion about all of the innovation that's going on in the agri-food environment. All of these startups come here with brilliant ideas for improving our capabilities.

It doesn't look quite right. So we need to educate, definitely. But we also need to start building those controls in. Because Andrew and I have done a podcast together before, or a webinar, I think it was. And there was lots of discussion about all of the innovation that's going on in the agri-food environment. All of these startups come here with brilliant ideas for improving our capabilities.