Andrew Rose (UK)

You'll be starving. But, you know, it can happen so fast. So fast. Yeah. that there's no time to even rally around it. And once it stops, it's kind of hard to restart.

You'll be starving. But, you know, it can happen so fast. So fast. Yeah. that there's no time to even rally around it. And once it stops, it's kind of hard to restart.

Sure. I mean, and you also asked, what is it that's going to get us more allocations of cyber resources for the food and ag community? And that's pretty simple. It's an attack. You know, it's a high profile of JBS type of attack. Everyone will come running to us. All the agencies will come running to us. There will be opportunities for grants and other dollars to address things that happen.

Sure. I mean, and you also asked, what is it that's going to get us more allocations of cyber resources for the food and ag community? And that's pretty simple. It's an attack. You know, it's a high profile of JBS type of attack. Everyone will come running to us. All the agencies will come running to us. There will be opportunities for grants and other dollars to address things that happen.

And, you know, I'm not being facetious either. For a long time, agriculture and water fought for the bottom of the list of resources available. But some recent attacks in the water...

And, you know, I'm not being facetious either. For a long time, agriculture and water fought for the bottom of the list of resources available. But some recent attacks in the water...

system have given them some more of the resources they really truly needed so i'm glad that that they're being paid attention to but you know simply put unfortunately it's gonna it's gonna take some some devastation for for folks to react to something like this um but right now there are businesses in the united states that are going naked without cyber insurance because they can't afford it because the questions are too onerous because it's too expensive doesn't pay out what it should pay out relative to what the cost is so i don't know what is the cost of doing nothing we're going to find out aren't we

system have given them some more of the resources they really truly needed so i'm glad that that they're being paid attention to but you know simply put unfortunately it's gonna it's gonna take some some devastation for for folks to react to something like this um but right now there are businesses in the united states that are going naked without cyber insurance because they can't afford it because the questions are too onerous because it's too expensive doesn't pay out what it should pay out relative to what the cost is so i don't know what is the cost of doing nothing we're going to find out aren't we

Well, that sounds like the whole country of Estonia back in 2007. It was the first cyber war that Russia launched. They had their new weapons, new cyber warriors. And Estonia as a country then put cyber hygiene through their higher ed system. In high school, you refight the same cyber battles they fought back then. So it works as making your populace your most secure level of defense.

Well, that sounds like the whole country of Estonia back in 2007. It was the first cyber war that Russia launched. They had their new weapons, new cyber warriors. And Estonia as a country then put cyber hygiene through their higher ed system. In high school, you refight the same cyber battles they fought back then. So it works as making your populace your most secure level of defense.

Oh, it already happened. We just don't know about it.

Oh, it already happened. We just don't know about it.

Well, that's a heavy lift right there. I guess I'll share what I shared in Chicago, that our adversaries, whether they're North Korea or Iran or China, and I don't know if Russia's going to be an adversary or ally now with our new administration, but regardless, they view us as their adversary. They view us as already being at war with them.

Well, that's a heavy lift right there. I guess I'll share what I shared in Chicago, that our adversaries, whether they're North Korea or Iran or China, and I don't know if Russia's going to be an adversary or ally now with our new administration, but regardless, they view us as their adversary. They view us as already being at war with them.

They view the warfare, like I said, the domains are sabotage, espionage, information warfare, cyber, everything but kinetics like that. If it becomes a kinetic war, one of the first things our adversaries will want to do is blind us by taking out our GPS systems.

They view the warfare, like I said, the domains are sabotage, espionage, information warfare, cyber, everything but kinetics like that. If it becomes a kinetic war, one of the first things our adversaries will want to do is blind us by taking out our GPS systems.

So for anyone out there in the food and ag supply chain, if you have drivers or you have trucks or vehicles that are on the road, make sure you've got paper maps and make sure that the person who's driving the truck is under 30. They know how to use a paper map. That's just a good little bit of resiliency there.

So for anyone out there in the food and ag supply chain, if you have drivers or you have trucks or vehicles that are on the road, make sure you've got paper maps and make sure that the person who's driving the truck is under 30. They know how to use a paper map. That's just a good little bit of resiliency there.

Hi there. Thanks for inviting me on the podcast. Lovely to be here. Favorite food is probably lasagna. I do love a good lasagna. Oh my gosh. And I'm not sure if this is weird or not, but I do love it with fries. Like in lasagna or on the side? No, on the side. Okay.

Hi there. Thanks for inviting me on the podcast. Lovely to be here. Favorite food is probably lasagna. I do love a good lasagna. Oh my gosh. And I'm not sure if this is weird or not, but I do love it with fries. Like in lasagna or on the side? No, on the side. Okay.