Andrew Rose (US)

If you call the FBI in, they're going to get it in and out as quickly as possible with full permission from you to access whatever it is they need. And then they're going to go catch the criminal, but they're not going to fix your systems. So I did talk to a large pork producer who was upset the FBI didn't fix his computers. I said, that's not their job. And he was,

If you call the FBI in, they're going to get it in and out as quickly as possible with full permission from you to access whatever it is they need. And then they're going to go catch the criminal, but they're not going to fix your systems. So I did talk to a large pork producer who was upset the FBI didn't fix his computers. I said, that's not their job. And he was,

I couldn't placate him, but I at least stated that as a whole.

I couldn't placate him, but I at least stated that as a whole.

Make a friend before you need it. Yeah, make a friend before you need a friend. That's usually my first bulleted point. But in the ag community, there is a little bit of trepidation about the FBI. There are certain sympathies for what happened on January 6th.

Make a friend before you need it. Yeah, make a friend before you need a friend. That's usually my first bulleted point. But in the ag community, there is a little bit of trepidation about the FBI. There are certain sympathies for what happened on January 6th.

And the FBI will be the first to tell you everyone in this country has a First Amendment right to wave a flag, to have a bullhorn, to ring a cowbell. But once you take an action, that's when risk and consequence occurs. So sympathies are fine, you know, and they're not there to judge you on anything like that. They're there to catch criminals. That's

And the FBI will be the first to tell you everyone in this country has a First Amendment right to wave a flag, to have a bullhorn, to ring a cowbell. But once you take an action, that's when risk and consequence occurs. So sympathies are fine, you know, and they're not there to judge you on anything like that. They're there to catch criminals. That's

I do want to give an amen to that. I've been preaching the secure by design principles to robotics and ag tech companies, and it's not a resistance. Oh, didn't think about that. So it's not a... It's worse. Well, I mean, they're concerned with interoperability, exchanging information, flow of data. So security is obviously an afterthought, if it's thought at all.

I do want to give an amen to that. I've been preaching the secure by design principles to robotics and ag tech companies, and it's not a resistance. Oh, didn't think about that. So it's not a... It's worse. Well, I mean, they're concerned with interoperability, exchanging information, flow of data. So security is obviously an afterthought, if it's thought at all.

But by putting that in the top five on their list, now it's there. I'm also coming from the investor standpoint. So an investor is not going to want to put money into a company that's going to have a lifetime of patches and upgrades required because they weren't thinking about security on the front end. That's just going to degrade their investment dollars, too. So there is no pushback from that.

But by putting that in the top five on their list, now it's there. I'm also coming from the investor standpoint. So an investor is not going to want to put money into a company that's going to have a lifetime of patches and upgrades required because they weren't thinking about security on the front end. That's just going to degrade their investment dollars, too. So there is no pushback from that.

It's just a lack of awareness, which is the first step in anything. Another piece that I mean, this is more of a global piece, but as a species, we rarely will fix something until it's been broken. So we didn't even understand how significant this was until the JBS attack.

It's just a lack of awareness, which is the first step in anything. Another piece that I mean, this is more of a global piece, but as a species, we rarely will fix something until it's been broken. So we didn't even understand how significant this was until the JBS attack.

So Andrew, I'm just hoping that somebody someday will come back to this podcast and say, oh, all those things Andrew said, yeah, we're going to implement them now that something has occurred, you know, rather than getting ahead of the attack. So I'm not, I mean, I don't want to be overly cynical, but it appears that's typically the way that we operate.

So Andrew, I'm just hoping that somebody someday will come back to this podcast and say, oh, all those things Andrew said, yeah, we're going to implement them now that something has occurred, you know, rather than getting ahead of the attack. So I'm not, I mean, I don't want to be overly cynical, but it appears that's typically the way that we operate.

The thing that we haven't talked about here, and Chris, maybe you'll cover this in another podcast, was the Microsoft hack of all the executives. And there's a lot of speculation that the source code is gone and that the Russians now know every zero day vulnerability before Microsoft does.

The thing that we haven't talked about here, and Chris, maybe you'll cover this in another podcast, was the Microsoft hack of all the executives. And there's a lot of speculation that the source code is gone and that the Russians now know every zero day vulnerability before Microsoft does.

I don't know if you've been watching your Microsoft updates lately, but every day now there's another patch coming in. And again, Microsoft, I'm just speculating. No one's admitted anything yet, but I have a high suspicion that some of that could have been compromised. And then going back to the secure by design is the liability piece.

I don't know if you've been watching your Microsoft updates lately, but every day now there's another patch coming in. And again, Microsoft, I'm just speculating. No one's admitted anything yet, but I have a high suspicion that some of that could have been compromised. And then going back to the secure by design is the liability piece.