Andrew Ross Sorkin

There were two billionaires.

People were making tens of millions of dollars.

There was a magazine article called Our Second Billionaire, which was Henry Ford, 1929.

One of the great lessons, at least for me, that I've learned just I think in reporting all of these years and even just reporting on the current milieu of billionaires in America, it doesn't matter how much money you have in your bank account or what title you have on your business card.

It is not emotional armor.

It just isn't.

And I think that the public, including myself, often think, well, they've got so much money.

What do they have to worry about?

Someone writes a nasty article about them or the president goes after them on television.

What do they care?

They can just go back to their yacht and they don't have to worry.

And I think there's truth to it in the sort of financial sense, right?

It's not that they have to – they're losing their home and are now out on the streets.

But it's almost like anti-armor because – like, you know, I don't know if you read Us Magazine occasionally, but there's the page This Is Us.

They're just like us.

Like emotionally, they're just like us.

I'll take the second part first.

He was a terrible orator.

I mean, ultimately, that's the truth.

He just was he didn't whatever you think the it factor is in politics.