Andrew Ross Sorkin

He did not have it in that regard.

It's sort of surprising that he won the election at all.

I think his ability to stir the public the way some of the great presidential presidents who have been great orators have was just not a talent that was in his, you know,

in his talent drawer.

Like he just didn't, it was not something he had.

So I think his ability to, but the other sort of psychological piece of this, and you can even think about it in the most recent decade, even now, actually.

So, you know, we had a whole period of time in our country where there was remarkable inflation going on.

And President Biden used to tell everybody,

Like there isn't inflation.

It's fine.

I mean, Biden tried to do a little bit of what Hoover was doing.

And the people were on TikTok saying, that's not true.

Have you seen the price of eggs?

I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.

By the way, I would say the same thing is happening now with Trump.

Yeah.

Which is Trump is out there saying the economy is great.

And yet if you look at some of the polls and you definitely look at some of the economic data, there's weakness there.

Oh, I don't disagree with you.

I'm just wondering, I'm very curious if they actually did some real polls.