Andrew Ross Sorkin

I've seen only a couple of polls on this where people really talk about how they feel about the economy today and for reasons that I think are inexplicable.

So I look at the economic data and what's going on with inflation.

And I would say there's some underlying weakness, at least for large pockets of the country.

And you would think that they would be on TikTok screaming the way they were screaming a couple of years ago in the last administration.

And I think there's some screaming going on, but I don't think there's nearly the same kind of screaming.

And I wonder why that is.

Very obvious.

And I'm so glad that you made the parallels.

You know, it's funny when I was writing the book, I used to have these big debates with my editor about whether we should actually make the connection for the reader.

So I, when you read the book,

you're hopefully inside this narrative and just, you know, listening or reading this almost tale of what happened.

But as you're doing that, and I'm not trying to lead you to a place, but I imagine that there are readers who are going to go, oh, well, that's like this and that's like this and that's like this and that guy's like Elizabeth Warren and that guy is like a little bit like Elon Musk.

And so, yes.

What's your take?

I'm no longer surprised because one of the things that I've decided I've learned is that the investor class, whatever that even means anymore, is a group of people who are effectively professional optimists.

And the truth is that actually, if you look over time,

Being a professional optimist or being predisposed to being optimistic has actually been the right choice.

So I remember years ago, you'd hear about a war breaking out in the Middle East or something, and the market would falter and fall to pieces.

And the truth was that if you had bought when that happened, you would have made a small fortune.

And I think over time, people have seen that