Andrew Sage

Yeah, yeah, you guys are cooked.

Yeah, again, this thing that was developed specifically so that Andrew Wakefield could sell his own vaccine.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's the thing.

If I was conspiracy-brained, I would say that actually the popularization of vaccine conspiracies on social media sites contributes to exactly that kind of population control that those same conspiracy theorists fearmonger about.

But that's if I was conspiracy-brained, which I'm not.

God, someone believes that somewhere.

Absolutely, there is someone who is like the anti-vaxxers are a conspiracy to call them global population or something like that.

No, because I mean, we have this very straightforwardly effective human invention, one of the best in the history of humankind.

And you're telling me that a couple of people on Facebook are now responsible for the entire government rejecting the effectiveness of vaccines and, you know, jeopardizing the health of the entire population.

Come on.

Yeah, I mean, unfortunately the true believers are in charge now.

Indeed, indeed they are.

True believers and of course people who stand to profit from the dip in the sails of paracetamol and whatever else.

So there are those conspiracies about population, and then there's the typical far-right Nazi conspiracies about great replacement, right?

The idea that shadowy elites are orchestrating falling birth rates among white populations while encouraging immigration from the population booming global south.

I mean, of course, not all of the global south is booming population-wise.

A lot of places are also experiencing decline.

It's a global problem, but we're going to get to that.

And connected, of course, to those great replacement types, you have the eco-fash with their worries about the environmental impact of population and their twisted belief that environmental collapse could be solved by reducing the number of people, which usually ends up targeting marginalized groups, which is exactly the kind of thinking that inspired real violence, like with the Christchurch shooter in 2019.