Andrew Sage

I did not hear about that.

A couple of years ago.

Down.

Oh, yeah.

Luckily, he only killed himself.

But giant, giant car bomb in the middle of, I want to say Memphis or something.

But yeah.

So like every once in a while, you get some real, oh boy, stuff from that.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, honestly, people could take even the simplest things and turn it into a threat to themselves and others if they're not in the right headspace or they haven't been given the right support.

It's sad, really.

And obviously, like, not all the conspiracies are benign.

I mean, if you have people rejecting vaccines, you know, it's almost like we're in the world that I alluded to earlier, you know, where we have a resurgence in measles, for example.

Yeah, Jim O'Neill, who's the Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services and the Acting Director for the CDC, literally on Monday called for splitting the MMR vaccine into multiple vaccines, which is just straight up the Andrew Wakefield.

I think I've said this on seven podcasts on this show now, but this is...

Literally just straight up the Andrew Wakefield anti-vaccine thing from the original giant anti-vaccine panic in the 90s.

That was the autism vaccine thing.

Yeah, yeah.

And this is the guy who's currently running the CDC.

It's just being like, no, yeah, you should do this thing.