Andrew Sage

Maybe doing it in 2018 is too recently for me to want him in Congress as a progressive.

I don't know.

Yeah.

It was like... That was... It was like a decade after... Like, he was one of the... So he wasn't one of the, like, the torture guards.

Like, when he was a Marine, he...

he was like one of the guys who was like assigned to guard Abu Ghraib.

Yeah.

Technically after the torture scandal, but it's like, it took you, it took you like a decade after that.

Yeah.

That maybe the thing I'm doing is bad.

Like I just, I just, Oh God.

Well, yeah.

And that's, that's kind of like the, cause I don't, you know, I don't think,

Having been stationed to guard a place where horrible thing like war crimes were committed necessarily damns you forever because like you don't choose where you're stationed to guard.

Who knows when he became aware what was going on in the place he was guarding.

But at some point he did.

And that wasn't like the moment where he was like, oh, fuck.

You know, and I, again, I have a lot of friends.

I have friends who were with the very first infantry unit into Iraq, one of whom, as they were invading, was like, you know, this is criminal, guys, right?

You know, we're breaking, you know, this is fucked up.