Andrew Schulz

Sparta basically...

I think there's a massive military defeat where they just destroy this entire Athenian fleet, send their economy even – send Athens' economy even further down.

And then Athens – the Spartans don't go into Athens and raid it, but they essentially tell the Athenians to back off.

You're not going to take over all of Greece.

And then so that's not the downfall of Athens, but it's certainly –

is the frame to this height of Athenian power that had never been seen before in the world.

It never would be seen again until the founding of the United States.

There would not be anything similar to it until the United States was created.

No, no.

Yeah, the Roman Empire is just not similar to ancient Greece in any way other than the way it looks.

You did not have the political freedom.

One of the big things was...

The political freedom and the philosophy behind the very existence of the people itself is not similar.

We're probably much more similar to the Greeks, even though we have a constitutional republic and the Greeks were like an absolute democracy.

We carry so much of...

this same kind of like primal nature of the Greeks, this fight for independence, this fight to be your own people who rule over each other that aren't ruled by a king, to have freedom of speech, to be able to represent yourself, you know,

Yeah, yeah.

But do these ideas really emanate through Athens, then to the French and then to the New World?

Maybe, gosh, maybe my American bias is totally showing.

Oh, yeah.