Andrew Warner

I did call up some of your competitors and I've said, what do you think I should be asking them about?

What's going on?

And they've said that $5 million number over and over.

That's 5 million over how many years?

Over five years.

So that's a million a year.

And so they say, look at the math on that.

They say, look at the math on that.

At the end, if you end up with that kind of revenue over five years, you're not getting a really big exit.

And so I started calling up your investors to get a sense of what was going on.

And they're saying it was kind of like a graceful exit.

We're talking about, actually, why don't I ask you the numbers?

Last year of the business, how much did you do in sales?

Yeah.

So so you're saying you can't say because you signed an NDA saying that you couldn't you couldn't release those numbers.

I don't know what they're saying is, look, the numbers weren't really that high towards the end.

But you're saying that, too.

You're saying, look, the height was roughly 2012.

2012 was the height.

Absolutely.