Andrew Wilson

It's an if scenario.

That would be great if we can go back to this.

It would be great if we can go back and look at and say that blacks, when they were in the 40s and 50s, they had more stable relationships and marriages than even white folks.

Here's the issue.

Why stop at the 40s?

Let's talk about 1863.

OK, your tradition seems to always hit this point of 1940s where you shine this light of traditionalism that you've never lived in.

That seems to be in a snapshot of something that you don't even know about.

Then when I fast forward and saying anything, dude, again, you're not listening.

When I fast forward to 1970, when it falls all apart.

with no-fault divorce, based on what I've been arguing, what happens?

All that traditionalism falls apart.

Why don't we take it further?

Why don't we take it back to bride prices?

I mean, how far in tradition are you going to go?

Are you only going to bang your head around 1940 and 50 because you watched a couple of movies and I Love Lucy episodes?

That's not tradition.

That was a snapshot in history that you're trying to achieve again.

So take it back further.

There's no marriages in the black community.