Andrew Wilson

Exactly.

And so if you say it's great and it's mitigating and I say, okay, I want to move towards mitigation, we can never eliminate it, you can't hold that against me.

And you can't hold it against me for telling men to avoid the situation, especially since, and I'll add this on, especially since we can know statistically women are getting married at an older age.

That is increasingly high.

We can look at 40 years ago, it was 20 years old.

We can look at today, it's roughly around 28 and 30.

Yeah, but there's some nuance there too.

There's a lot of nuance there.

Well, hang on.

Well, hang on.

Hold on for a second, but I was completing a point here.

Go ahead.

At that point, you're seeing a lot of women choosing to not marry.

You're also seeing a lot of men choosing to not marry those women that are older.

So how do you get those people to have an ecclesiastic marriage when you're telling them, these people are saying, I'm not marrying that woman.

She's a stepmom.

No, she's a single mom.

She's older.

She's past her prime.

How are you getting that marriage rate up with the ecclesiastic marriage?