Andrew

You know, you get to a point where like the IWW will show up to a town and like the bosses in the town will show up with guns and shoot them because they're that well organized.

They're that dangerous.

They're that capable of striking.

They're that committed.

And they're that

able to tap into all of their members and have everyone in the union be a part of the union and do things with the union and that's you know how you can actually do collective action and then and you can watch this with sort of like with the ability of the nflpa like obviously like that's a much weaker union than you're like yeah i don't know you're like 1930 cio or whatever yeah yeah but

But you can watch it, like, sort of decay into this sort of, you know, what you call, like, a service union, where instead of it being run by the players, there's, like, okay, we have some people.

They're going to do everything for you.

They're going to sometimes talk to you about it.

but you know, like they're going to be the ones like managing all of the contracts and all of the negotiations and like, right.

And, and as it like information circle gets tighter and tighter, you know, that makes it way easier for things to just get completely fucked.

And then, then, you know, and this is one of the things that you see in the nineties is the, is the complete dominance of business unionism.

We're just like, nah, fuck it.

We're a union.

Yeah.

Right.

The us and the employers actually have the same interest and we're going to work with them to make money.

And it's like, how's that going for you guys?

Like I, I,

And that's what this sort of turns into.