André Duqum

And then I want to examine the generative drive after.

This could be somebody asserting they want a certain thing for their life, just asserting themselves amongst their peers.

How else would that show up, that assertive drive in someone's life, practically speaking?

So now what sits on top of it, I mean, the way that you've articulated it, it sounds like these are the more benevolent aspects of human beings, the ones that drives us towards a sense of cohesiveness and coherence in life as fundamentally creative.

Mm-hmm.

Because again, it can, oftentimes when the self-reflective and examination towards self can go too far where it's like not taking into account the natural proclivities of how your intelligence wants to express itself and the, and the draw you have towards supporting community and, um, your creative endeavors in life externally.

So, uh,

Why is that such an important thing to focus on and is a big theme in your new work, in your new book, that you think is so underlooked and often needed right now?

Why would somebody's generative drive be different in one case versus the other?

Like the creative impulses that are unique to us, what's the origins and reason for that?

Now, earlier you mentioned that the generative drive sort of is born from the balance of a healthy amount of the pleasure and assertion drives and that those...

give a sense of humility, which leads to gratitude, and empowerment, which leads to agency.

I would just like to zoom in on a couple of those aspects a bit more.

So humility, I think, has this often wrongly attributed notion of sort of meekness or like...

sort of like negating of self for others.

And I'm just curious, how do you articulate what humility is and the importance of it for a healthy psyche?

It's ego, eh?

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