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All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Humility: Because Sometimes You Gotta Eat That Pie
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All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Humility: Because Sometimes You Gotta Eat That Pie
Ever wonder what bridges the gap between your favorite film genres, subgenres, and movements? CinemaScope is here to explore these connections, taking you on a thrilling odyssey through the ever-evolving art of cinema. I'm your host, Andy Nelson, and in each episode, we embark on a deep dive into the forces that sculpt the world of film.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Humility: Because Sometimes You Gotta Eat That Pie
From the styles you know and love, like heist films or the French New Wave, to the ones you may not be as familiar with, like Turkish Yeşilçam or Brazilian Nordesterns, My expert guests and I unravel the complex tapestry of storytelling style and innovation that defines the world of film as we unpack the myriad catalysts of change that shape these diverse styles.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Humility: Because Sometimes You Gotta Eat That Pie
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All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Patience & Kindness: The Two Heavenly Virtues of Not Being a Big Dumb Jerk
Before we dive in, here's another show you can enjoy in the True Story FM family of entertainment podcasts.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Patience & Kindness: The Two Heavenly Virtues of Not Being a Big Dumb Jerk
Ever wonder what bridges the gap between your favorite film genres, subgenres, and movements? CinemaScope is here to explore these connections, taking you on a thrilling odyssey through the ever-evolving art of cinema. I'm your host, Andy Nelson, and in each episode, we embark on a deep dive into the forces that sculpt the world of film.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Patience & Kindness: The Two Heavenly Virtues of Not Being a Big Dumb Jerk
From the styles you know and love, like heist films or the French New Wave, to the ones you may not be as familiar with, like Turkish Yeşilçam or Brazilian Nordesterns, My expert guests and I unravel the complex tapestry of storytelling style and innovation that defines the world of film as we unpack the myriad catalysts of change that shape these diverse styles.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Patience & Kindness: The Two Heavenly Virtues of Not Being a Big Dumb Jerk
Whether you're a student of film, a creative professional, or simply a devoted movie enthusiast, CinemaScope is your gateway to a richer, more immersive film experience. Don't just watch movies. Understand them, appreciate them, and revel in their artistry with CinemaScope. Subscribe today.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Lust: The Guiltiest Party
Before we dive in, here's another show you can enjoy in the True Story FM family of entertainment podcasts.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Lust: The Guiltiest Party
Ever wonder what bridges the gap between your favorite film genres, subgenres, and movements? CinemaScope is here to explore these connections, taking you on a thrilling odyssey through the ever-evolving art of cinema. I'm your host, Andy Nelson, and in each episode, we embark on a deep dive into the forces that sculpt the world of film.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Lust: The Guiltiest Party
From the styles you know and love, like heist films or the French New Wave, to the ones you may not be as familiar with, like Turkish Yeşilçam or Brazilian Nordesterns, My expert guests and I unravel the complex tapestry of storytelling style and innovation that defines the world of film as we unpack the myriad catalysts of change that shape these diverse styles.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Lust: The Guiltiest Party
Whether you're a student of film, a creative professional, or simply a devoted movie enthusiast, CinemaScope is your gateway to a richer, more immersive film experience. Don't just watch movies. Understand them, appreciate them, and revel in their artistry with CinemaScope. Subscribe today.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Greed: The Dopamine of Desire and that New iPhone Smell
Before we dive in, here's another show you can enjoy in the True Story FM family of entertainment podcasts.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Greed: The Dopamine of Desire and that New iPhone Smell
Ever wonder what bridges the gap between your favorite film genres, subgenres, and movements? CinemaScope is here to explore these connections, taking you on a thrilling odyssey through the ever-evolving art of cinema. I'm your host, Andy Nelson, and in each episode, we embark on a deep dive into the forces that sculpt the world of film.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Greed: The Dopamine of Desire and that New iPhone Smell
From the styles you know and love, like heist films or the French New Wave, to the ones you may not be as familiar with, like Turkish Yeşilçam or Brazilian Nordesterns, My expert guests and I unravel the complex tapestry of storytelling style and innovation that defines the world of film as we unpack the myriad catalysts of change that shape these diverse styles.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Greed: The Dopamine of Desire and that New iPhone Smell
Whether you're a student of film, a creative professional, or simply a devoted movie enthusiast, CinemaScope is your gateway to a richer, more immersive film experience. Don't just watch movies. Understand them, appreciate them, and revel in their artistry with CinemaScope. Subscribe today.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Temperance: A Surprisingly Progressive Crusade
Before we dive in, here's another show you can enjoy in the True Story FM family of entertainment podcasts.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Temperance: A Surprisingly Progressive Crusade
Ever wonder what bridges the gap between your favorite film genres, subgenres, and movements? CinemaScope is here to explore these connections, taking you on a thrilling odyssey through the ever-evolving art of cinema. I'm your host, Andy Nelson, and in each episode, we embark on a deep dive into the forces that sculpt the world of film.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Temperance: A Surprisingly Progressive Crusade
From the styles you know and love, like heist films or the French New Wave, to the ones you may not be as familiar with, like Turkish Yeşilçam or Brazilian Nordesterns, My expert guests and I unravel the complex tapestry of storytelling style and innovation that defines the world of film as we unpack the myriad catalysts of change that shape these diverse styles.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Temperance: A Surprisingly Progressive Crusade
Whether you're a student of film, a creative professional, or simply a devoted movie enthusiast, CinemaScope is your gateway to a richer, more immersive film experience. Don't just watch movies. Understand them, appreciate them, and revel in their artistry with CinemaScope. Subscribe today.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, so robot helped just a minute ago, but not really. Right. Because this whole idea of being resentful or aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities or luck, that's envy and jealousy. Protective or vigilant of one's rights or possessions. There are a lot of the same words in there. Yeah.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, and that's why a lot of the therapists, behavioral scientists... are calling out jealousy when it involves humans, like the sort of traditional triangle of jealousy in relationships, right?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yes.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I think envious. Okay, I'll come. I think because... I don't know. This is such a weird question. Like, oh, I really want to be one or the other, which I don't. I don't love either quality in myself. Yeah. But envious because... I don't like what jealousy does to my most important relationships. Go more into that. Well, I have been in the past a jealous person.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I don't think I'm a jealous person now. And part of that is having been in a relationship for 25 years. So I think we're beyond it.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Until my neighbor gets a convertible. And so, but I do know what it feels like. And I have those really, you know, we did the whole thing on regression. And this is one of those experiences when I can put myself in a place of being furiously jealous and making up some incredibly impossible stories in my own mind that are rooted in jealousy and are fabulously untrue.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yeah, right.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yeah, right. I know how to make up really dark stuff.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Doesn't that make you a miser, though, kind of?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
14.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I've been thinking about it as we've been going into this, as I've been prepping for this show.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And it, it fascinates me the nature of learning pride, particularly because there are, there are associated words with, you know, pride, like, and you know, there's just, it started because there's this researcher who, who put these, this table together and these words for both authentic and hubristic pride. Those are sort of the two flavors and the words I find interesting because I
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And I wonder how I learned to internalize a subset of these words when I was a kid, because that's it feels like when you learn to be proud of what you do. Right. As you said, when your dad said, I'm proud of you, son. And, you know, what are the kinds of activities that you did that led to that? something happened that you could be proud of. And I didn't really play sports.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I was not a sportsman in my youth. I did play soccer on a... I think I talked about this. I played youth soccer on a very winning team, but played a goalie on a very winning team and never really played. I just stood there and... And so I had nothing to be proud of.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I didn't feel like I ever earned a win as a part of that team and didn't play long enough to really get good at it to feel like I was accomplished. By the time I was in high school and started performing more regularly... I think I started getting the hang of it, but didn't quite understand why. You know what I mean?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Like I didn't have a whole lot of those very early days of doing something that both I felt good about having done and other people told me I should be proud of what I just accomplished. And so I would be on stage and I would perform, but I had no idea like why if I did well, I didn't know how to rationalize that in my life.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yes. OK, that's a really interesting thing. And I as you know, I'm a brand new fan of Formula One racing and I'm loving it. And the guy that there are like there are people there are athletes in the cars that exemplify this. And it is fascinating to me to see how these guys have grown up and become people that I like to watch win versus people that.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
win and i hate to watch right well and in a sports context like when i watch lewis hamilton win in mercedes it is he always comes back around and says yeah i know i'm a real fan i know i love it no i'm so excited
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And I watch him against like, I got really excited and I went back and watched an old race yesterday and to watch him win and hear him say, I am just like honored by the other people in the field. And I'm honored by to be here. And the team is amazing. And I just, I feel like as such, such an honored representative of, Right. Right.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
A mistake is a mistake, and to carry pride over as an excuse becomes arrogance and narcissism. That gap is defined to me as narcissism, and I think that is a really— That has been a really interesting thing. And I've never had that as a kid. Like, I never grew up with that kind of experience as a role model.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
It took me, I feel like, a lot of time to figure out that those words exist and define a feeling that I would experience at some point. So Dr. Tracy, in 2007, presented this list of sort of words.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
well there are two things uh eagle-eared uh listeners will note that just putting pride and envy in one episode does not actually make up for our total of 12 episodes the math still doesn't work out so i just want to say don't worry we've got you and we've done there are more shenanigans to come this season so just wait for more shenanigans later right that didn't And I was so excited about it.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Did you already bring that person up?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Dr. Tracy is the author of the journal article, The Psychological Structure of Bride, A Tale of Two Facets, in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, and presents this table of words. And I really like the sort of... antithesis buried in this table.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Under authentic pride, that comes from somebody who feels accomplished or confident or triumphant, somebody who is a, quote, winner, victorious, achieving, honor, right? These are all words of internal strength that comes with authentic pride. And hubristic pride, arrogant, conceited, cocky, stuck up, boastful, haughty, egotistic, self-righteous, pompous, pretentious, like
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
All of those words that indicate a sort of a pretender and what the research came out, Dr. Tracy's report says these findings show that authentic pride is associated with high self-esteem, whereas hubristic pride is associated with low self-esteem, high narcissism, and a tendency to experience shame. And I think that is fascinating.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, and here's another piece that I feel like my sense of reading this is when I see somebody who like Lewis Hamilton, who is incredibly well accomplished, well spoken, has a fantastic family life, all this stuff. that when Lewis wins a race, the pride is the pride about the accomplishment and that's it, right? Like that's the end.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
That experience doesn't have to do the heavy lifting of low self-esteem, right? And so somebody who has low self-esteem comes off as arrogant and cocky because they need that win, the thing that they just accomplished to buoy so many more aspects of their personality.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yes. That is my new kind of awakening to what this looks like is that it just has – cockiness and conceitedness is doing more sort of psychological work.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I can't believe this was written in 2007. Yeah. And the final quote, like, in fact, narcissism is associated with a discrepancy between low implicit self-esteem and high explicit self-esteem. In other words, a trademark of narcissism is that deep down on a non-conscious level, narcissists experience high levels of shame and low self-esteem.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
To compensate for these negative evaluations of self, they express an inflated conscious self-esteem.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Oh, all right. Well, I'm not a listener.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
It makes me rethink so many parenting decisions that I've made. About how to motivate your kids. About how to motivate my kids, yeah. And I think that's one of the things like parents will know. It's hard in the moment to think about those things because you're like – you're not naturally attuned to celebrating. It can feel like celebrating with faint praise. Right.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
A kid because what you want is to aspire them to be really great and have great taste and And that it's sometimes you just have to say you did a good thing. You're good at that, what you did. And in your head, you're saying you're great at that as a six year old. Right.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And so we are going to talk about other stuff. That goes without saying. Yeah. So that's number one.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And and we had this I had this conversation with my son because we still have in our bedroom. An actual work of art, a square canvas that is 10 inches square of something that he had painted when he was very young. And he said, that is—he's standing in my room the other day, and now he's like going on 18. And he said, that is an objectively bad painting. Yeah. Objectively.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
He said, why is that still hanging in your bedroom? I said, because it reminds us that the six-year-old who painted that. did a good thing. The six-year-old who painted that loved it. And that was the level of the six-year-old's taste and aspiration. And then it was great. And today, when we look at it, it reminds us of that feeling. Right. Not of what you could paint today. Right.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And he said, I probably couldn't paint that today. Right. Let's just say in the intervening years, he hasn't spent a lot of time painting. But that's the idea. And when he was six, I wonder if I, like, would he have painted more in the intervening years if I had told him more assertively, that's good. You're good. You have something to be proud of and see what happened.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Do you still love your children, Pete?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
They're really busy and gone most of the time. And as you know, when they're not right in front of me, I forget about them.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, listeners know that the first thing I'm going to fill my children's abandoned room with are files. You love files.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
We've known each other for like nearly 30 years and you know me and my file habit.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
You know, one of the things that I think is really interesting, it's something you brought up in the last break, which is, you know, breaking these things apart. And it gets to one of the things we talked about in the Envy podcast. which is malicious envy, which is kind of the dark side of envy.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Tom has chosen the choicest cuts.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
It's when you could be jealous of somebody because of their success in a way that is healthy, and you can also be jealous to the point that you want to dox them and bring them down to your level. And I think that's the lesson of both of these things, right? Like both of these elements, envy and jealousy and pride, which is like to, you know, what have I learned?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, be aware of my dark side because I think everyone's got it. And, you know, we'll put that in a file for sure.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I may have included some fat. Yeah.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, that was really fun, Tom. I'm glad we went down memory lane. And, you know, as avid non-listeners of our own podcast, sometimes it's fun to go back and hear what everybody else is hearing.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
next week we are talking about temperance tom temperance real quick what is temperance um it's the my guess is it's the opposite of gluttony Is that right? Maybe not. You know, it's funny. The dictionary definition we'll have to check with Robot to confirm next week, but absence from alcoholic drink is one of them. Oh. Oh, so it's just being sober? It's moderation.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yeah, sure. Um, okay. So this is another thing that's a little bit complicated because when you look at the, the pairing of, um, you know, the sins and virtues, uh, Pride and envy don't pair with each other. Right. Because they're both sins. Yeah.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
The quality of moderation or self-restraint is the second definition to teetotaler.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
That's it. It's clips all the way down.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Thank you all so much for hanging out with us. We appreciate you. This week's tune is Make You Mine by Mina.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And I'm Pete Wright. See you next week with all the feelings, sins, and virtues. Go keep an eye on them.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, we would say that.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
So, you know, how do you just before I start telling you about what I picked, how do you put together these two pride and envy? How do you make sense of them as a dynamic duo of sins?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Well, and that's what we get into with Envy and where I pick up. And actually, if you listen to the show, I'm doing it out of order. Because as we talked about the show, we talked in the second half of our Envy show about why humans are jealous. And... It turns out we may have had to wrestle a bit with some of the anthropological sort of history, but it turns out we got there.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
We figured out why humans are jealous. And that's where we go with my first clip. Welcome to the first clip of the clip show. Why are humans jealous? I would like to know if you have any insight Before I tell you that there is insight and an answer, I'd like to know if you get it right. Why are humans jealousy? Jealous.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yeah. Now I have to leave that in. You made a joke about it. Now I have to leave it in.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Evolutionarily. Why are we jealous? Because does it make any sense to you intuitively even? Even if you can't put words to it, does it make sense why we are jealous?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I love that you went with rock and or stone as the root of all jealousy. You know, it's funny that there are people who really believe very stridently, stringently, assertively, all of those, that jealousy is a cultural construct that without jealousy, like the modern sort of Anthropocene complications, we would not know jealousy. There would be no reason for jealousy. Okay. Right?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
That humans, the only reason jealousy can exist is because humans are a constituent element of it. I see. Got it. Right? And yet... Behavioral scientists have really come down to the following logic.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
From an evolutionary perspective, jealousy is very likely to have developed as a mechanism to mate-gate, to protect pair bonds that are important for successful reproduction and child-rearing, encouraging partner fidelity... helps ensure a male's genetic lineage is passed on and prevents, or at least absolves, small microcultures of genetic complication. Got it.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
When jealousy exists in a community, partners are more likely to stay partnered with each other and not co-mingled genetic nonsense.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
It could very well describe a lot of single-partner creatures, right? A lot of animals are single-partner animals, and they do, in fact... Stick with swans, right? Like swans are notoriously single partner, even though they do. They have been known to sleep around swans. Actually, apparently, according to biologists, do sleep around and it is measured in males.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
They are incredibly jealous, incredibly jealous creatures when their single mate sleeps around on them. Can you imagine? I want to be the guy who does that research. I want to do the jealousy research on swans. It's amazing that that even exists.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And can you guess how jealousy manifests? And this goes back to the evolutionary perspective too, weirdly, how it manifests in male-bodied people versus female-bodied people.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Over what specifically? What behavior makes men jealous versus women?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
It's sex. It's always sex, Tom. You said knocking pigs over with penises. I did. It's the sex. That's how you use sex, right? Yeah. You just slam around stuff. What about women?
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Emotional connection. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that is how it is described. Like that is that is how jealousy is generally described between the, you know, across the broad swath of research that exists historically not addressing the complicated nature of sex and gender today. I don't think there's a lot of that research. I could not find a lot of that research.
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Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
But when we're talking about sex and jealousy, women tend to get jealous when their single partner has an emotional connection with another person, and men get jealous when their partner has sex with another person. Now, you would think that the corollary is that women are not as jealous when men actually have sex, that it's just a sex thing, and that
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
The opposite would be true, that men would be okay with women having emotional connections with other men. I didn't find anyone that said, oh, yeah, that's totally true. That doesn't seem to be true. Right.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Right. So I thought it was really interesting when you add the because a lot of people, especially in the comments, I read it, come back and say, but what about the tribes or cultures like in Uganda that are polyamorous or the Inuit people, which have a practice, a general accepted practice of sharing one's wife? Right. I didn't know that. Apparently they do. OK.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And so I'm curious what your thoughts are about those things. Do you have any speculation as to as to what might what might be true in respect to jealousy in those communities? No, it's not good. It's not a good thing. Right. Because you use this on the surface. You use it as a as a cultural guard. Right. That says, OK, humans are we it's our culture that makes us jealous, not anything else.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
But in truth, when you look at this is the research that I thought was really interesting, that infidelity. In groups like the—hold on, I have to scroll. I've lost my point. There it is, bingo cards.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
I actually have to Command-F and find Inuit. It was up higher than I was even looking. No, that's not fair. I wanted to make this point 15 minutes ago. Okay. So for those who argue that jealousy is a cultural invention and using the ammunition of societies like the Inuit, it is really interesting because the outcomes of those –
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
don't address the fact that for the Inuit, a wife-sharing relationship is an act of extraordinary and painful generosity, right? That it is – the actual sharing is it's a massive gift that you're giving to someone else to share your wife and not something made easily or commonly.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
And – Also, spousal abuse is very, very high in communities with polyamorous relationships. It's much higher than in monogamous relationships.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
So I thought that was really interesting. Did you agree? I totally do. And we got there. That was exciting. Yeah, we got there. The second piece that I think is really important is where we started. And this is where you wrestled the most, which was how do we talk about envy?
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
Yeah. If you are like me, you say things on the podcast and then you immediately move on to a different podcast and you don't remember what you thought about your perspectives. And I look forward to having you hear those again on this show. Okay, good. Just like I look forward to you hearing. It's possibly my favorite biblical joke ever.
All The Feelings • The Sins & Virtues
Feeling Green: Our First Clip Show! The Pride & Jealousy Review
of any joke i have made on the show i this is pride right here i am proud of the joke that i make and it's about cain and abel do you remember the joke i want to tell you i want you to hear it but i'm very very proud of this joke let's hear let's hear it the ultimate question for my part is going to be if you had to choose would you rather be envious or jealous
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Oh, it's my turn to pick a career. IT specialists, take that, Daniel! I'm coming for you, Penelope! You ain't for me!
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I recount for the four millionth time about how I had sex with Eartha Kitt in Tavern Inn. I tell the story in extreme detail.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
You guys were playing? It turns out Icebound is actually just the dragon inside of the tomb.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
It says here that I'm a lowly goblin. Yeah, that works. That sounds about right. What kind of name is Scrim? What does this random generator even do? Ugh, what a terrible name.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
No, we had to kill you! Damn it. He didn't even see us. He didn't seem concerned about us at all.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
This is our moment, brothers. Prepare yourselves. I try to draw my greatsword in my arm's brain.
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My only question would be, before I do that, have we all known each other for a long time?
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
All right, my character's name is Masarer. That's spelled M-A-S-A-R-E-R, Masarer. Masarer. Okay? Okay. You guys would know that as we've grown up together that, you know, Masarer, he's a little snooty, but he's definitely a lot unhinged. You know, he's got kind of a screw loose, you know, like he's kind of a wild card. You never really know what to expect from Massar.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
And people might think that that's because there's a very common rumor that kind of goes around this falling kingdom that Massar is the son of the emperor and a cheesemonger's wife. He's a bastard. That's really good. And he doesn't want to believe it. He definitely has a con. Well, the timing really doesn't work out.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
And, you know, the snootiness, the unhingedness, you know, that's kind of a, there's a bit of a veil or a front that Massar might put up, because he likes to talk about himself a lot, and he likes to tell stories that you guys have all been around him for forever, that you are always kind of like, wait a minute, I don't think it happened that way, or I don't really remember that it happening that way.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
And it's because it all stemmed from when the prettiest girl at the ball in fourth grade danced with Massar, and he never let any of you all live it down. And from there, things just kind of started firing out of control. And Massar really lost control of his life after that dance. And, yeah, other than that, I would say that, you know, we're all warriors. He's tall, well-built.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
What's your weapon of choice? A two-handed greatsword.
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Yeah, yeah, he's a swordsman for sure.
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Are we the only remaining guard of the emperor left?
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All right, fellas, what's the plan? What's the plan? It seems as if, yet again, everything comes down to us.
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Why is it always killing and violence with you all? Well, it's either that or us. Us or them. What's it going to be? Well, I think if we fight it, we'll win, certainly.
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Just point me at the dragon and one, two. Listen, Artie, that's very impressive, but I'm sure I've mentioned once or twice that I once had sex with Eartha Kitt in a tavern bathroom. With what? Eartha Kitt. You know, the famous silver dragonborn. The broad that was in Emperor's New Groove.
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Right away. Just tell me one thing. Yes. Do I make you proud?
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We're gonna be okay. What do we got?
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This is fine. It's gonna be fine. Everything's fine. So the lift is just kind of almost in free fall.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Oh, man. If only we had a javelin or something to try to spear the chain the whole badass way.
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I'd like to Medicine Check the Emperor to see how long he's potentially got. Please do. Do you know what kind of roll a Medicine Check is? Is it just a roll of wisdom? Yeah. I got 14.
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I am attempting to use some cloth and potentially maybe a belt that I'm wearing to create a makeshift tourniquet to cinch off his shoulder as there are tears welling up in my eyes as I'm working on him and I'm trying to, I'm trying, Abram, please. Daddy, please don't go. Yeah. I don't know why you call me that. I'm sorry. Emperor. Emperor, I'm going to stay strong for you, Emperor.
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Why are you undoing your pants? It's called a tourniquet. I'm sorry.
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I'm getting the feeling you guys didn't do it this way last time. No. No, we just rolled straight in. Okay.
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Well, this is kind of the same thing as picking the nests of your character right now.
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I administered a tourniquet very well. You ever done that before? No. But I learned techniques from my mother, the humble cheesemaker.
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And they can be different, like opposites, similar?
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Well, it's like my mother always said, honor and duty. Perhaps you might recognize her. She's about 5'4", her name's Mary, cheese maker. There's not time for this!
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Sounds a bit... Cowardly? We're just hiding?
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So that's just it? We're stuck here now?
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Well, if we are awakened from slumber and we defend the treasures, then what? Are there more potions for us to return to slumber? That's a good question!
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Oh, um, well, yes, I suppose I feel a bit better.
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I'm trying to be professional.
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I'm beginning to think that we may have been cast of Amontillado, or my name is not Massaro.
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I believe all we have are these potions.
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You jump about a foot in the air. And he breaks his face.
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Yeah. Is there like a final resting place for him outside of the four for us?
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We're stuck here forever. There are no more families, no more brothers or sisters. We are the only family we have left, us as friends.
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Laziness. It's obvious. You have reminded me of something with your attempted jump. I suppose that perhaps there's nothing left for us to do other than to drink these potions, and quickly, before we have to designate a corner to begin defecating.
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All right, we all get in our sarcophagi.
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I would be thinking about the relationship I never had with my real father, and that I hope that my mother is all right, and I hope that our civilization survives and we don't go extinct.
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I will think, if anyone else has something else. Oh, I would just, my eyes would awake, I would remember the dying words of the Emperor, which were, yes. And as I would be stirred, all of a sudden, my blood would be pumping, I would be filled with purpose, as I drew my greatsword from my side, as I step out of the coffin and I say, I will avenge you, Daddy!
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Oh, no! You can decide. You can decide. Hold on, hold on. I'm giving you that one. Oh my god. I can't read your handwriting. What does that say? Just give me a little bit. This is, you're killing me, Mike. You're fucking killing me.
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I wish I had brought a pen. Pass those over to me. I'm going to see if I have one. Pass those over to yourself.
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I'm kind of close to hysterics as these rats are trying to eat the corpse of my father, who I presume to be my father, and I am just swinging my greatsword and kicking and stomping on rats the best that I can. I'll make an attack.
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Have you always been able to do that?
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I know. No, no, the madness is already starting to set in. This is the beginning of the end.
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I'm not going to fit in there. Okay, who's up? Who wants to go to the rat hole? None of us are going to fit in there. It's 99 feet in the air. It's about the size of a basketball, and I don't even know what that sport is.
Legends of Avantris
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All right, I suppose Laedalell can throw me. Okay. Here, I just walk over and I just sit in your flipper arms.
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I mean, he's a giant werewhale. But we are also giant dragonborn. Probably weigh 250 pounds apiece.
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What do I do now? Well, I'm thinking... You've always been so smart. I'm thinking, because I'm the most slight out of all of us, perhaps if you rub me down in muck tuck grease, I might be able to slide in the size of that basketball shaped hole. Okay. Just don't get any on my hands or I won't be able to climb the rope.
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There are mirrors everywhere. I begin to take off all of my armor. Okay. And then once I'm done, after about ten minutes of doffing my armor, I'll go over to Ladle L and I'll say, all right, I'm ready, please just grease me up, make sure you get my butt cheeks and hammies real good. Okay, I need a knife.
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And without anything on my feet or hands, I'm gonna attempt to climb the rope up to this.
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You can do it! As I'm pulling, I'm gonna look over my shoulder down at the guys and yell, All right, I'm going in. It looks a little tight. Volumetrically, I'd say it's roughly a dozen beef sandwiches wide. LAUGHTER Okay, that sounds right.
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Okay. And if you need a pen... I didn't realize that. I was gonna bring a whole bunch of pens, and I was gonna replace all the ones in the park. I was gonna do the same thing you did. You're ahead of me.
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I will tie some of the rules.
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All right, Vassar, don't lose your grits now. And I begin to crawl into this tiny hole and try to pull my way in and once I'm in, I'm gonna like,
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Okay, I am writing this, though, as it pertains to me. So if it gets passed... That'll be pretty funny. Yeah, it'll be weird.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Well, bad news, bad news. I got about a foot into the hole maybe. First my hands started to go numb and then my arms and my shoulders and my face was very much reminiscent of one of our early day parties when Artie slipped us some drugs. Next thing I know, I lost consciousness, and I was falling into this lovely whaleman's arms.
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I don't know what happened, other than perhaps... That area is just outside the bounds of whatever seals us in this tube.
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It wasn't nearly as fun as the drugs that you gave us. How quickly did you get on?
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I feel like if the rats woke us up, perhaps we'd just try to go back to sleep. Yeah, that's a good idea. My mother, the humble cheesemaker, used to tell me when I couldn't sleep as a child that sometimes you just had to close your eyes and clear your head.
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She told me all of the fairy tales that all good mothers tell dragonborn children.
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You've known about this for your entire life, and we are just now learning about it because you've never done this because you don't know if it goes the other direction. Yeah, exactly right.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Oh, no. There's no airflow in here. Why would you do that?
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Oh, oh, oh, Artie. You might be in a bit of trouble. I don't think you're going to find any whale women down here.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Good night, fellows. I suppose I will also just lay back, close my eyes, and think about what's happening here. I certainly hope that by dousing me in all of your horrific whale blood, I don't catch whatever blood curse that you have. Well, good night. Well, you know, good night.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
All I can think about is Penelope. I wonder where she is now. Who? Who's Penelope? Oh, you guys remember Penelope. She was the prettiest girl in school. And she slow danced with me. You're talking about that chick from fourth grade?
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I've done a lot of great things since then. Allegedly. Yes, I once met the great, famous, silver-born jazz singer.
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I had sex with other kid in a tavern-in bathroom.
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Maybe you could just do whale noises for us until we fall asleep.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Well... And that's why we can't go to sleep? The Emperor, the late Emperor, told us that if the seal was broken, we would be awoken. But nothing has discovered...
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Gosh, I hope not. Whatever you do, if Artie does manage to find drugs, just keep him away from you.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
So just so we're on the same page, we're all just taking three drops and ending this night?
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I'm sorry, but won't we just age while we sleep? Wasn't that the whole point of the magical potion? To prevent us from aging and also having to defecate in a corner?
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
What if we are to go back to sleep and the seal is never broken and we're never awoken? Isn't that the same as death? Aren't we just still?
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Oh, all right, boys, help me get a tool back into his tomb. Well, that's fantastic. We're going to pick him up and put him into his sarcophagus.
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It blooms up into our faces. I immediately, like, drop to my knees, and I start to try to shove the silver dust back in, but I'm getting a lot of sarcophagus dust as well.
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It's too much. Too much sand. Too much dust. Oh, he won't notice. Meanwhile, I'm curling while you're doing this, and I can't fight this feeling anymore.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
It's so fitting for what I wrote. Wait, wait, greatest achievement. Yeah. Greatest achievement.
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I'm like trying to pick it up and sprinkle it in it's getting kissing and it's very more like like kind of like dusty like brown Let's just pretend that that didn't happen. I put the Snuffbox in his coffin with the next one. Well, I'm going to get in my sarcophagus now. I'm going to take only two drops. I am not going to lose count.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Okay, it's going to be great. You're great at counting. All right. But I don't want to fall asleep while I'm holding it. So perhaps one of you will administer.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Lay it alone. Lay it alone. It is very important. Look at me. Look at me. Lay it alone. Look at me.
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Two drops. Repeat after me, Mabel. Two drops. Mabel out. Okay.
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From over in Massar's coffin, you hear him say,
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Being a doctor's not that impressive, Dennis.
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No, when I took the milk of the poppy, it was fine.
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I run to Laetal El as you're looking, and I look, Laetal El, Laetal El, and I look over my shoulder at Arturo.
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Hold him, hold him still. I take some of my, the horrific, nasty, wet blood, like, thing, and I put a big, I put like a big dot right where, like on his chest, right where I think his heart is, and I'm like, aim for the mach a tourer. I'm, like, going in.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
The second that he... I will pull the knife from his chest at the same time. Seamless transition. You do that.
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I really, really advise against it, Laeliel. The second you begin to pass through the threshold, you will pass out instantly. Well, I'm going to stick my blubbery head up in there.
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I truly believe that we have received the bommest of bum deals. That's right. We are doomed. There's nothing to protect against. We are sealed in here forever until our utter demise.
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It's our duty to get beheaded. I kind of wish we all just accidentally took one extra drop of the poppy.
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I believe that we should eat Laid-Alone first. The fattiest, the most delicious out of all of us. The rest of us are scaled skin and bones. I'm 80% muktuk. I'm pretty strong.
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Now that I'm taking a closer look at this, the visage of my father is here. Why? Why? As it appears, though, codpiece is slightly elevated. One of these nipples is extra pointy. Perhaps if I was to...
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Well, it should have been obvious to me from the start, and if you look at the sarcophagus, the visage of my, I mean, our late emperor, and you'll see that, like, the depressed codpiece is there, and his nipples are kind of like this, and I say, it should have been obvious, and I lift up my shirt, and, like, my...
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No, fuck that. Jesus. The emperor told us in his final breath that we were to guard the tomb. We were absolved from all of those previous crimes. We are doing our duty now. Wait, you absolved us of our oaths? Well, I mean, at the very least, we are the failures to protect him from the horrific white dragon.
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No one is going to behead us.
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Does there appear to be any kind of a scripts or archives or any kind of written...
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Gentlemen, spread out. Begin reading the shelves. Perhaps you don't touch anything. You're greasy and bloody.
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Yes, Laetal El, you play with that. You play with that, Laetal El. The rest of us will spread out and try to figure out how to work this ancient technology. Okay, sounds good, sounds good. We begin to look through the shelves in the books and see if we can find any information.
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We all look, except for Laetal El. I got a fucking four. Yeah, I'll twist. I'll twist as well. Come on. Thank you, Chet. All right, I got an 11 that time. 17.
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I've never liked it. Are you just telling me this now? Well, I figured now and then. We've been friends for a lifetime.
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That's not what I am, a Viking. I got to nod. We're twisting it. Twice. Oh boy, all right.
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You don't feel the need to sleep. Well, then I would start with eight hours to see how I feel.
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He's our god emperor! Quite literally, there's quite literally not a single explanation for why the four of us were entrusted with this job. He's got a good point. Based on how everything has gone.
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Let's go somewhere with drugs, all right? Um, so we endeavor that we think we could put something together.
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Well, I would have said, like, we were, you know, we were looking at the console, reading the book, we're, like, comparing and... Oh, I see. You know what I'm saying? Like, so if we feel like we put something together, do we feel like we need to roll to see what we put into the console? Who approaches the console?
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I could have given you flares! If we are forced to fight to the death, then I bare my neck and I embrace the cold feeling of death.
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As the punch is coming in, my final words would be, that thematically makes no sense as you take my head off. I just take the blow. I don't even try to get out of the way.
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Oh, my. Wow. That was quite the hit there. A two-roll.
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You've ripped out the pages and put them on the wall in your own special corner that you just go to and slap occasionally.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Guys, leave the room, he's at it again.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Arty's Yeti quarters, very stained and dry and peeling off the walls. Yeah, it's crusty and cracked. It's like dingy.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
True. I got a white claw for St. Paddy's. I got to stay off the booze. I went to a kegger yesterday.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
Yeah, I saw the group text. You guys were in shambles yesterday.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
I was just laughing about Le Maire being one of those horses that they give fake pussies so they could... Stut them out.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
What have you found with your research? So it turns out they are having marriage troubles right now. What? Bianca and Kanye.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
What the hell? He was spotted yesterday with a woman who looks exactly like her, but is not her.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
He does actually have the clone on him. But she doesn't look exactly like this is just the tabloid. Is it just she has giant tits and giant ass? Yeah, she's just a pretty lady.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
Fashion-focused movie censored around Kanye and Sensory's relationship exploring the female body.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
Fashion-focused. Kanye produced it.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
I believe it's an Italian movie.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
You've been Zendini? That's GG. The kegger was Zen. Was it Zend out? Actually, no. I was kind of a piece of shit.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
Everyone's finding out that you were right all along. Everyone. I'm Sean Stradamus. That is true.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
I think about Michelle Obama getting home. Because she knows that people say she's a man all the time. You think she ever gets really sad about it?
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
But his name is Craig Robinson.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 551 - BullDoggin' (feat. Nate Marshall)
Just thinking about her and just being like, oh, Barack, they're saying I'm a man again on the internet. Yeah, that'd be really sad. Having a bad day because people are calling you a man. Even if you drone striked all those people. That's what I'm saying. That's the least of it.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
If she can claim to be an astronaut, then men can claim to be pregnant.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
How does a generator work? Like an AI detection generator? Because I wonder if it's comparing it to other images and there isn't this huge catalog of photos.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
There was a few of them did, right?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I get where Katie's coming from, though. Like, what do they say makes the heart grow fonder? Space. Distance. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just think we can't relate.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
It's like a monument.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Creepy. I'm looking at the second image you sent and I'm trying to figure out if it's like flat across the top or if it is like a pyramid. It looks flat across the top. But look at that second image. It's got like a clear, it's not a single tone across the top like lighter shadow would cause.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And that's hard to determine because it's definitely three-sided. But like think about the pyramids have that huge structure that just got generated underneath. And so if the pyramids are supposed to be the Washington Monument, they all have this like pyramid-like top to a tall structure. I don't know what that means. It's just...
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Jacob Barber.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I was going to say the more like you we become.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Dude, what the heck?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Jeez, man. You said one and two show up at the same time, typically?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
That looks like the pyramid and the structure under the pyramid. If you stacked them together, if that's how they land, that'd look like the other image.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
It's all ex-military dudes. Dude, I do not want to see that in real life. I'm way more okay with it being spooky than real.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah. Cause like the, the thing to believe is like, if he's given the proposition, we'll let you come into our country, any country, just don't let him talk about these things. And he already has the software at his disposal or the program at his disposal to filter. All right. I'll put that in.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Dude, I'm going to say it. I want to see it. Elon and Zuck. Oh, the fight? It needs to happen.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
like a fake arm yeah there's also like he just does this and like his hand flies across the room yeah probably you got a neural link that unlocks the other 90 of his brain did he do that i don't think he i don't think he hasn't done the neural link not to my knowledge there's no way elon musk has not tried to clone himself
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139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Well, yeah, that's silly to think. They talked about downloading consciousness using quantum computing. But you think about the clip where he's like doing this weird like head glitch looking back and forth. If that's him, like neural linked up, short circuiting, like calculating stuff. This is all for entertainment purposes. I'm sorry.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Just get angry.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
That's why they're going to match.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
It's literally his name. It's an alphabetical designation. Yeah, it's like a serial number.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He has 14 children.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I couldn't tell you. I just can't wrap my head around how that could be a true statement. I know people say it is, but it seems like a theory where... Well, time is different.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Day is like a thousand years.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah, dude.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Okay. I'm not going to show you yet.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I'm not going to show you yet because this is a reel that I have made and it's tied to a story that I'm going to tell that freaked me out Corey in honor of you being back on the pod I had to look up story did a little research and a lot of these seem super fake but this one actually is is unsettling um again this is this is called the Gorman Ridge encounter and this happened in uh 1993. so it's in Utah Utah Utah
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
All right. Gorman Ridge Encounter, Utah, 1993. This hunter named Travis L. His real name, I couldn't find it, his full name. So he's an elk hunter. He's a seasoned elk hunter, and he's on this ridge called Gorman Ridge. And night one, he did a little stalk, located his herd. You know, he knew where the elk were. He couldn't close close enough. He's rifle hunting.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He still couldn't get close enough to take a shot. So he set up camp on the other side of the ridge. And in the middle of the night, he wakes up and realized that the woods, you know, there's always like a buzzing. He realizes it's gone completely silent. And this is, again, an experienced hunter.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He's familiar with the different calls in the woods, and he hears, it's not quite like an elk bellow, but it's like, it's elk-like, but it's three sharp bursts. Like something with some sort of intelligence is like calling, like signaling, really. And it freaks him out. And so does it three times. Woods go silent, unzips his tent, pokes his head out. Nothing.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And, you know, every now and then something in the woods will happen. You're like, well, I don't know what that is. It's part of being in the woods, the fun of it. And so he just goes back to sleep. Well, the next morning when he gets up, he's already got a tree stand set up. And when he goes to sleep.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
this area of the woods, as he's on the trail, he realizes that there are footprints that he doesn't recognize. He said they're four toed about the size of slightly bigger than a bear's paw print, but they're human ish. It's like a really wide human footprint. And he said it was almost like a, a human foot, a large human foot had stepped and then slid and like splayed out.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
So there's these like large tracks and he's like, That's weird. I don't know what that is, but he continues to the stand. And so he's hunting sun gets pretty low and, uh, he's just sitting there, never sees the deer. But then again, he hears the three sharp whistles. He's like, what the heck? And he's, you know, looking around, but it's in the distance. Well, he hears it again.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He hears three, but it's closer. Now he's like starting to freak out, you know, all the excitement of a hunt. Only this time he's like, what's approaching me signaling out this call.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
animal like but somehow human is how he described it well as he's sitting there he hears it again only this time it's really close and he looks down out of his tree stand and looking back up on it is this humanoid thing says no fur dark leathery skin like but somehow shiny like it's catching light off of the he said there was moonlight at this point like he's been in the stand for a long time and so
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He's literally looking at this thing and it turns up and looks at him. And instead of seeing reflection in the eyes or anything like that, it's just, he said, as black as black can be, can't see anything. And it starts chuffing. Do you know what chuffing is? No. It's what cats do. It's like a greeting or like when a cat will encounter another cat. It's like this, kind of like tigers do it.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
It's not the roar or like a meow. Is it the vibrating thing? It's not a purr. It's like when they like breathe, like purr. And it does that a few times looking, but it's locked on him and it's just making this noise. He's literally like, it sees me. I don't know what it's trying to do. I don't know what it's saying. And he's just frozen. And then...
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
it just kind of slips back and he said it was weird as soon as it started to slip back it just like vanished into you know it's like it's dark at this point so he's like i don't know if it's still here it just vanishes on the other side of the tree lines he stayed in that tree for hours it's now pitch black and he's like he's like
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
too scared he's too scared to come down the tree because it was right there right and he's like but i can't stay in this tree because it's in the woods and so eventually he climbs down books it out of there and literally he's like packs up camp is able to get out fine but he's talking to a park ranger and he's like i don't i'm not crazy i don't know what i just saw and he's like where were you hunting
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And he's an experienced hunter, so he's going way further than anyone else does. It's in the mountain range is the Uinta or something like that is how you say it. But he's like, I was on Gorman Ridge. He's like, oh, he's like, dude, there's so many stories out of there. That's why people don't hunt it after like dark. They typically leave early.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
He's like, there's a bunch of stories of these sightings like skinwalkers and stuff like that. And so I took the description that he gave and I ran it through an AI image generator. Cool. And so my video is literally, this is his description. Did you have the chuffing? Uh-huh. This is the sound that he compared it to. Chuff. Loading.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
That scared me. That is so scary. So I had a conversation with ChatGPT because I was freaked out reading it. And that's where I was like reading the story from them. I was like, is this true? And it's like, well, it's from.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah, I mean, it started playing games. So I started looking further. I was like, ignore ChatGPT. Let me look up where this range is. The Gorman Ridge, right? That's what I said. Gorman is literally part of the ridge where you find Skinwalker Ranch.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah. And so the reason no one goes to that area is because it's like the backside of a ridge way up into that territory. That's interesting. What's Skinwalker Ranch? In Utah, it's like one of the most paranormal sites. It's like the Navajo have all their stories of... It's Skinwalkers, and what's the other one? It's basically the same thing. It's a wild place. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
But literally just more sightings and stories.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
At the top of the hill that looks over Skinwalker Ranch, there is an ancient site that is called It's called Ur.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I forget the tribe. I just don't want to be disrespectful to the wrong one. Anyways, it's a stone circle. It's a Native American religious site that's literally stones in a spiral. It symbolized death to life. But I talked to my buddy who's Navajo, and he talks about to become a skinwalker... It's literally the exchange of that which you love most dearest exchanged for this power.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And literally at the top of Skinwalker Ranch is one of those spirals we were talking about last week in a stone circle, and it's protected. You can do tours to go see it, but you're not going to Google it and find a bunch of pictures of this place. But it's an ancient. It's eroded. It's not still in use, but it symbolized life to death, that sort of exchange in the native culture.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I'm trying to remember the other story you've told that's like really, really similar to this, though, about being up and about and aging.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
That's interesting.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
That's crazy. I mean, they are alternately aligned, like the bigger ones in the furthest back.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Dude, I've been thinking on the garden, and it genuinely trips me out. For death to not exist, but for it to be necessary, that man tended the garden. And so what was he tending for if not to keep alive? So I guess plant life was living and dying?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
So what was the soil composed of? Was it just organic, non-living matter? It gets into the idea of how do you define life in the garden.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
The better Eden. Yeah. Oh, dude, have you have you heard Norse mythology and their stories that parallel the Garden of Eden? No, it's freaky, dude.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
so i i think a lot of the mythology from around the world parallels scripture because everyone originates from one place and so for clarity i'm not saying they're what they believe is the same as what we believe but they're they're parallel so they tell a story about how the gods and the giants need the god edun's apples Oh, wow. To prolong their life.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And the trickster literally stole the apples. And because they no longer had access to the god Edun's apples, they began to age and decay. Loki tricked, um, Eden, who is the wife of another God into a, uh, place called, um, Loki tricked by the giant Jazzy lures Eden into a forest where she's abducted.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And so literally she's taken into the land of giants and, uh, no one, none of the gods or the giants have access to her apples anymore. That is fascinating. I-D-U-N, Idun, not Eden. Idun. But it's like... Loki, interesting.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Oh, okay. Norse, right? Yeah, Norse. Norse, yeah, yeah.
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139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
There you go. One of these guys that don't matter so much. Yeah. The fun fact, not Norse, but the god of thunder is who God parted the Red Sea in front of when the Egyptians pursued the Israelites. Oh. So maybe that would have been Thor if Norse people would have been in the area.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
I mean, that is the better way to hide what you did.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
It's so funny. It's only attractive females that have been woken up. They're like, this feels something's off.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Dude, that is the dopest story.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah. You imagine knowing around any corner they're going to get you again, you're blind, and you're just like, I'm going to keep talking. You don't know who's in the room listening. Like, I don't care.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
life is different choices like every aspect of your oh i love that that's so cool they're like two desires that like a believer wants for sure they want to be with their creator and they want to obey their creator and if obedience in the extreme can speed the arrival of the unity of the creator like i get to be with him sooner if i'm like zealously obedient and it's like
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
All of these martyrs were like, I kind of hope, Paul, like, you know, to die is game. I kind of hope you do. Like, I'm tired. But if you don't, I'll keep going.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
The problem with that song is Katy Perry can actually belt a stinking song out. So the original key is just.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
When you read a passage like that, to think about what that audio clip would sound like, like being stoned, you know, forgive them. They don't know what, it's not a monotone. It's like choking out words in pain. It's like, if we could hear that man, it changes.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
And so you think about the spread of the gospel in the early church, imagine being there and just listening to, you're normally there, like the weird culture who wanted to see people die. you know, off or whatever, but then to hear those words instead of screams, like you think about the resonance and yeah, that'd be shocking impact. Yeah. Yeah. Be crazy.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
This is crazy.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Or he wants to send all the women to the front lines.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Yeah, it's good to have you back, Corey. A little bit of a shot in my confidence right there.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
Pyramid of Giza. Same is true for the fathers of Protestant Christendom. They had beer and wine in their contracts, if you will. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Luther. Luther married a beer brewer.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
139 - Mount Kailash Mystery, Katy Perry in Space, & Area 51 Secrets
What happened to the Katy Perry that was like, nobody come to me. I'm just a musician. Don't ask me about politics. You remember that interview?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Oh, look.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
I'm pretty sure I've seen you. Not only mouth open, like... Like a gunshot victim. You okay?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
We already know we're cutting corners. That's what I'm saying. You know, we're going to keep our baby safe.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
I don't know what that was.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
You said got to or he's going to.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
He's got to do it, man. Timothy, he's got to do it. Damn, come on, man.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
I started talking. It was so loud.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Legos?
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
We are now...
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
That was crazy. Really?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Hey, really?
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Yeah. Quails are dinosaurs.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Red Robins are dinosaurs. Yes, they are. Blue Jays are dinosaurs. Okay. Sandhill cranes, they're dinosaurs.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Yellow-breasted finches are dinosaurs.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
No way! Let's go!
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
And so I... Listen, listen.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Oh, goody, goody, golly, goodly, gosh, gosh. I can't wait to see what he's got.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Kyle XY.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Wrong. Wrong.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
I mean, there's, it's like, it's like almost that never happened.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Yeah.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
I'm shaking my head no.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Redemption. Redemption. I messed up my last line. Dang it.
Ninjas Are Butterflies
138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Joshua. Joshua. Yeshua. I read in Joshua.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
The Giants, they came.
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Yes. Judges. Judges.
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138 - Hollow Earths Entrance Found, Ancient Spiral UFO, & The Dire Wolf
Pinching pennies. Scrooge McDuck over here. Yeah.
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
This won't change anything between us. I know, no.
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
Yeah, yeah. You're inspired by these crazy dancers.
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
Maybe. I thought that was so fascinating. I also want to address a comment that I couldn't find, but that I saw from a few weeks ago that asked what my ranking in Rocket League was. Oh, yeah. And the comment, tell me if I'm remembering correctly, this sounds like a listener whose boyfriend plays. Yes. And are they in Iceland? And is he also a music producer?
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
I thought it was bad. It's been a little better lately.
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
So you did have an agenda when the other day you were like, do you want to do Apple Fitness again to get that started?
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
We hang out so much is the only problem, though. Do you know what I mean? I do.
Nobody's Listening, Right?
165 - Body Issues And Butt Pats
Okay. I thought you were bringing it up. One, I was worried. Did you see me in the hot tub? And then you were thinking, like, he needs to... Okay. Two, I didn't even think it had anything to do with the dancing videos. I thought you were more on this bone strength, like perimenopause kick. Well, it's all of it. It is all of it. Like, I need to get the dumbbells out so I can get strength.
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Can we talk about that vagina cream that you got that has the crazy label on the front? Sure. Do you remember exactly what it says?
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Apply one ounce per vagina. Like, as if one person has more than one vagina?
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Slide into my DMs or something. I got to know who this guy is. An Icelandic producer that also plays Rocket League.
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What about, I know we've, off air we've caught up about this and it's probably good to catch up on it on air. Your oil painting, we've decided we're going to take back the easel that I got you for Christmas. You're not ready to get into that full bore right now.
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washing my hands of it but i do want to take that easel back yeah we'll take the easel back you never opened it great hopefully it'll be easy to take back how about you i know you have your cup is overfloweth but are you excited about the idea of doing weights with me i'm yeah because of this seeing my body in the mirror i'm like oh i should do a little thing have you also noticed i've lost weight yes you have noticed yeah but you never said anything
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Anyways, this might ruin all of that. I'm not ranked at all in Rocket League.
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Yeah, I did about two weeks ago and it was kind of shocking.
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Yeah, I've lost probably about like 10 pounds in the last year. I assume it's some of the ADD medication for the past year. Yes, yes. So I'm trying to be a little bit more mindful about like eating and stuff because that can make you not want to eat as much.
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I'm not ranked because it turns out to be ranked. You'd have to be playing competitive matches online with like people everywhere online. I'm only playing with my friends.
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Yeah. Well, real quick, though, to be honest about the extracurricular, like doing things I have not found time lately. You know, I have I love making music, obviously. And I have this little gizmo called the Ableton move that I love so much. And they keep updating the machine. The machine got updated like two weeks ago with some features I've been wishing it had.
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And I literally haven't turned it on since then. Oh, my God. That's how busy I've been.
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And so I do need to find some time for stuff like that just to have a little me time to like enjoy making stuff. I also need a little me time outside, I think, you know.
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Oh, no, I'm interested in that because I think it'd feel good for the body and soul.
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I think that and getting a good sleep is the name of the game.
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Do you know what I mean? We need to. I've been staying up pretty late lately.
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Oh, these days we need sleep, you and me. That's all I want.
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Now, you took the reins and you got on the Brooklyn Bedding site. Yes. And you were looking through all the different options and whatnot. Yes. And it looked so cool. I'm jealous that you did it, but you picked us out the perfect mattress because you can say like how firm you want and tell what type of sleeper you are.
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Yeah. You're trying to get up to half 60. Yeah. But anyways, since we've gotten the bed, we have been loving it. Yes.
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But I'm not ranked. I have no official ranking.
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But maybe if I played this Icelandic dude and we went toe-to-toe with some, I don't know, what's another country?
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I can say it's scientifically loved by Elizabeth.
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Okay. If we went toe-to-toe with some Norwegians, I'd get ranked.
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Shout out to all our Norwegian listeners and also shout out to our Finland listeners. I saw that we were number two on the charts there recently.
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Yeah. Like, you were in bed on your phone, and you... No, I just did it when I got out of the car last night. Oh. I set it up so I knew it would play. Gotcha.
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So to whoever you are bringing us up those charts, really appreciate it.
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I know how Dave Matthews gets you. You're a real sucker.
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I mean, say what you will about Dave Matthews, and some people love him, some people hate him, but the guy definitely fucks. All evidence points to that. You know what I mean?
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Well, I wouldn't be listening to Dave Matthews, so I'd be listening to something else. But I think I'd be cool, too.
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Okay, have you been listening to the Tim Tinsley? Yeah, I have, I have. Okay, because it was on in the car the other day. This is one horrible thing, that we're sharing a car at the moment, and that means— At the moment, baby, it's—this was a great thing that happened. This is.
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Oh, yeah. If you think about insurance, gas, everything that we're going to be paying. Registration. But there's one huge downside on it.
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That's not the downside. Oh, what is it? It's that now we share the same Spotify account again.
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And mine's going to get so tainted. Yeah.
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I don't know. Just whatever you're listening to. And you have a habit, too, of you listen to the same thing over and over and over and over again. So then the algorithm gets, like, bottlenecked, like, into Elizabeth Niche. Yeah. You know, there's no variety. And I'm trying to expose the kids to different types of music, but oh my gosh, they definitely have more of your taste than mine.
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Those are, to be fair, things I weren't that into, but I enjoy them now.
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I guess she's in like a, she plays bass, so she's in a like classic, like she wants to hear rocky stuff. So Weezer, Green Day, like stuff you learn when you're playing bass for the first time. Okay. So that makes sense.
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And then, okay, you want to know your most egregious thing? And I don't know the names of the Counting Crows songs, so forgive me for not knowing the name of it.
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You literally skipped over the best Counting Crows song, which I'm like, if we're going to listen, I doubt it. How does that one go?
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Never heard it. But anyway, so even in the Counting Crows canon, you're skipping over like the one song that's good.
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I let them listen to whatever. And you know what? If there's bad language, I let them listen, but I let them know. I'm not listening to any, like, you know...
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Yeah, that stuff. The stuff I love. I'm not listening to that stuff. But if there's other stuff, curse words, that's fine in my car with them. And they understand. Cool. I think they understand.
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I I'm here for it. The other day, I know I told you this, but I don't think you understood. And he was around how wild and funny it was. We're just sitting eating the two of us, him and I. And he just there's like a break in the conversation. And he just looks at me and goes, how do you manage? And it was the funniest fucking thing. How did he know that would be funny?
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But then as I was laughing and then I told you about it, he then was being like, you know, you're just so busy and stuff. And then I was like, oh, I hope you're not being serious. How do you manage? I thought you were being kind of funny. Yeah. But now is it, like, sad? Right.
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Right. But, man, he's got some good timing, that kid.
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We definitely went to St. Augustine, Florida. That's like way down there.
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Those are the two I remembered, but I'm sure there were other destinations. We definitely did a Disney World trip once in Orlando. Then we also did like... Hilton Head. What's that? South Carolina?
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We did other beachy stuff like that. Yeah.
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I don't know if our kids would love a long road trip. There's not as big of road trip culture. I'm sure for some people there is.
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I mean, for me, it was... Having a Walkman and listening to music. Then after that, having a Discman and hoping it wouldn't be skipping the whole time because they were so shitty and the CDs would skip.
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And then just stopping at the gas stations, the weird gas stations I loved, like going to Florida. We've talked about Stucky's on here before. Yes. Like those kind of stores. And then just like stopping at restaurants to eat. I loved all of that aspect. And then- You get to the hotels. I loved the hotels. That was so fun. And they used to all have arcades back then.
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So it would be, where's the arcade in the hotel? Can I go play? Mom, can I go to the arcade?
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No. Well, back then, though, it was like, yeah, you guys go to the arcade.
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And then the parents are just chilling. Right. Getting drunk. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe. I don't know.
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We should do a little something. We have friends that just did Grand Canyon. And I was like, that actually sounds kind of cool as like a little mini road trip.
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I think you can do it in a day, but you also can like split it into two days. They stopped in Las Vegas at like a really fun hotel that was like very kid friendly and had like, you know, arcade and, you know, crazy water slides.
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Hmm. No, I was a pretty good kid back then.
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On vacations? I'm not a troublemaker on vacations. Are you a troublemaker?
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Oh, see, I didn't do that. I wasn't at that age. I do remember one spring break that I went to Mexico with my buddy Justin. He came with me. And we were with my mom. And I actually think my grandma. Oh. And the first day we were there, we're in this tiny little town and we go out on the beach and we find our buddy Taylor, who that we used to be in a band with, is on the beach.
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So we're like, whoa, what's Taylor doing here? Yeah. And he was on vacation, too. And we drank a fucked on that trip.
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And we would go get, they called 40 ounces of beers. They weren't quite 40 ounces. They called them ballinas, I think. Okay. Like 32 ounces and, oh, we were drinking ballinas and.
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getting fucked up because you could also buy them when you're 15 down there oh you know what i mean that's fun that was that was very fun and just smoking mexican cigarettes yes see that's what i'm talking about getting into trouble i didn't have enough of those for spring break did you ever do a classic classic spring break where you're going well yes i did which i'll get to i do want to share you did
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You've done no Tai Chi dives, to be clear.
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You got to always blame it on other kids as long as you know that your parents aren't tattle type of parents.
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I've never had a ocean beach hookup, but I've had a lake beach hookup with sand. Probably a little bit different types of sand.
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Oh, that sounds like it would be luxurious and great.
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Yeah. You now sort of need to take a legit class to really get a feeling of like how off this place was. I know.
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How can you not say? B. You're lying, I can tell.
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Okay. Was he a St. Louis guy also? Yes. Oh, so you knew him back home?
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Oh, this is why you don't want to talk about it. He's going to hear this.
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Chances are pretty high that he'll hear this. And to think, I hope he's more of a skilled lover now. But chances are he might not be.
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No way. There's no way I'm beeping out his name.
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Have you looked him up ever on social media since then? Like, did you look him up in high school? Did he go to your high school?
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But you remember his last name? Yes. Whoa.
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So you're sitting on the toilet. Yeah. And then you had a wastebasket. And you were really sunburned probably too. So sunburned. And had been recently fingered by Marty.
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I got really food poisoning sick on a trip with my mom, which was probably spring break. We were visiting grandma again and on our trip back. I got crazy sick like the day we got back to St. Louis. And we think that it was a ham sandwich at a truck stop that got me. Oh, sure. That was what we always thought. That was the first time I had an IV.
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It was most likely the mayo was the theory.
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I don't know, like processed meats that are cooked like ham. I don't know how dangerous that is unless it's like ham. I guess if you're mishandling ham, but I bet you can much easier have a snafu with mishandled mayo than with mishandled ham.
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Yeah, what am I talking about? They always have like deli meat fucking disasters. You're hearing about listeria and whatnot.
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I told you that thing about how gross deli meats can be because the law is like you can't have the bag of deli meat longer open for like seven days, right? After seven days, you got to toss it.
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Yeah, that's like the food handling laws. You know, there's protocols at a Delicatessenite grocery store.
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It's something like seven days. But so you, the customer, doesn't know, are you getting it on day six or are you getting it on day one?
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Mm-hmm. Or if it's like a real popular meat, I think you can probably feel pretty safe. You know, if you're getting like a smoked turkey. Yes. Probably a better bet than some weird like, you know, specialty item, if you will.
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I might be talking a little bit out of my ass, but that's okay.
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I could see how someone with that likes olives would really like that though. If paired with like a salami type meat or something, I could see how it could really go together. The saltiness of the olives. I don't even like olives, but I, I really see how it could work.
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I don't know. I think it crosses a boundary.
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So did you really hook up with him when he came visit? I forget. Or did you guys not really hook up?
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Yeah. I mean, there could have been a chance.
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You know, I had a girl in high school come visit me and I was sort of dating someone. No, high school. This is high school.
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In Idaho. From where? St. Louis. What? Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay, hold on. This is going to be so crazy.
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If you know who this person is, because I don't think I've talked to them since they visited me in Idaho. We lost touch. We didn't go to school with them.
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I'm always free-balling. Haven't worn underwear since 2009.
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There was I think it was we were friends.
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But there was this girl that I'm going to have to talk to Josh about this because I don't even remember how we met her. But like we would go to her house and go swimming all the time. And we were like friends with her. Josh and I. What's her name? Oh, boy. Now I'm like kind of nervous that you're going to know who this is.
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And then you're going to be like, it's going to be like, oh, my God, you know her? Okay, are you ready?
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Yeah, it's just dawning on me, you seeing the guy visiting.
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But I don't even know how I kept in touch with her. If she called me and was like, I don't even know how it all came together.
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No, actually, that probably doesn't make sense. Maybe like a year.
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I don't remember. I'm going to have to talk to my friend Josh about this.
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Probably just like a few days. Or I just remember seeing.
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I think I might have sort of had a girlfriend.
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Oh, that doesn't sound like a butt pat. That more feels like a, I'm moving on. I'm done with you.
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That sounds more like here are my hands on your hips and then bye-bye. Just slide it over. Bye-bye.
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No, no, no. I just want a little bit more intention. Good job. Do you hear that, Pat?
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It seems so similar. It seems so similar. The rhythm is even the same, but it's the intention. And there's a little bit more power in the good job.
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What's her name? What's the link of the place? Let's put it in the description.
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Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe I didn't read this comment last week because this is from two weeks ago, but I needed to share this with our listeners. This is from Stephanie on Spotify. Long-time listener, first-time commenter.
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Not the fixing part. No, no, no. The form, I don't think.
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Yeah. She's been staring at that ass for years.
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Oh, you just mean you shook from like your muscles. Yes. Oh, if you're not shaking, you're not baking. Hey, getting to bodies again, or just because we're talking about bodies sort of, or I'm imagining your body and this other woman's body. So let's talk about my body for a second.
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Actually, before we get to my body, hold on though, but I got to jump. I'm jumping everywhere. Before we get to my body, if a man did that to you, is there any scenario where a Pilates man coach could give you a good job?
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I'm a designer for Disney, and there are no mirrors above the sinks in our theme parks to help the circulation slash avoid people taking a long time looking at themselves at the sinks. Usually, we will have one large mirror near the exit. Oh, my gosh.
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How many times would you say you've gotten with a fitness instructor of any kind after class?
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In what world is someone going to multiple hot tubs?
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We went hot tubbing like we're on a bar hop? Yeah, first we went to this hot tub, and then we walked a couple blocks to, you know, the other hot tub, and then we went to that gross hot tub.
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You can get, I think, can you get a staph infection from hot tubs? Let's just say yes.
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I don't even know what one is, to be honest.
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And what is strep throat? Is that strepilococcus?
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It was Michael. Michael. I like to call him Mike. Okay, my body. So we're in this hot tub. And it was pretty hot.
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Yeah, and they must like it hot because before we got in, I think Brian had said it's almost like there to temperature. Like he was monitoring it on his phone because he turned it on so we could go tubbing. Anyways, it was a little hot for me. So I would get in for a little bit. Then I would get up and just keep my legs in and I'm sitting on the side.
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You were right. I didn't believe you that. You were saying that there weren't many mirrors in women's bathrooms.
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But how I'm sitting on the side and we're all just chatting. We're having a lovely time. But I was facing the house, which was basically if I wanted it to be a wall of mirrors.
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And weigh you every day, but that seems odd that I wouldn't notice that, but sure.
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Quell, is that the right? Quash? Smosh? I can help in that department because I thought you looked really sexy in your swimsuit.
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Really like that swimsuit and I think you look great in it.
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I don't think there's a chance. I'm going to start crying. Thank you.
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I'm serious too. What do you want me to say? Just lie to your face right now? How far should I take this before I throw the car into reverse?
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I'm serious. No, we can't do this right now. We can't do this right now. Listen, everybody has a complicated relationship with themselves. I'm teasing you right now, obviously, right? Right?
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I do not think of you as someone that has a hard time loving themselves.
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And maybe what you're saying right now is you've maybe had a hard time with your physicality, it seems like you've struggled with, like loving that aspect of yourself.
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You should just love it. I absolutely love it. And I think you look really sexy right now.
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But let's not make this all about you, okay? I'm sorry. Can we make it about my body for once?
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Yes. And I'm not such – I don't have – can I say bitch tendencies because we just learned it on Temptation Island? Yes.
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Okay. So I don't have bitch tendencies. So I was sitting out because I didn't want to be hot in the tub and overheat like you. Seems like you might have overheated. But I was staring at myself and it was the first time I was looking at my upper body and I was like, oh, that's what everybody's looking at. It is a very kind of middle-aged man's body, which it should be. I'm a middle-aged man.
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But it felt like a little bit more like saggy and I feel like it might be time to maybe put in a little work.
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No, it was after, and this is why I brought this up, okay? Ah! So continue, and then I have one big question for you.
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Also, this point is so stupid because I personally do not think, well, like, okay. I don't think that Meredith leveraged Brooks to get out of it. But I understand when people say, no, she did. I think it's fair to say, like, what Meredith said, she was like,
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right to say it was such a simple small thing and the fact that that has been blown up into like an argument like there's no argument to be had I think it's Meredith saying my son is part of this community I would never like I understand what it means I would never do that I don't think that's like leveraging it's not like pulling some sort of it's not pulling some sort of car although I do see technically it is I think you have a right to just say that and it's not a big deal and the fact that it's become a huge fight is so ridiculous
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I feel like she's being accused of saying like, well, I have best friends who are black. You know, when people say something racist, I'm like, what? I would never be racist. I have a friend who's black. That's what they're accusing her of. That's what they're accusing her of. But I actually don't really think it's the same thing here personally.
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And I think that she has, I think she was totally fine to say that what she said.
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Does anyone know what the definition of leverage means? And then, like, Bronwyn nods. And then Todd raises his hand. He's like, it's a very good show on TNT. Yes, of course I know it.
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Sean was asked by a gay podcaster about it and said, don't you feel like it appears that she is using her son as a defense? And she's like, no, he didn't say it appears. I did listen to the whole podcast on like what you said. So she starts reaching for her phone.
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I'm going to listen on Apple Podcasts. I will listen on Spotify. Well, I'm going to listen on Amazon Podcasts. Oh, okay. Well, we'll see who pulls up the podcast first.
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So now they play audio from behind.
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Our cheating makes for great twists in soap operas. So now we hear from behind the velvet rope and he's like, Meredith said in the most or second most recent episode, you know, my son is gay and you know, I'm on the board of GLAAD, you know, and I would never out someone's sexuality. Like, is that, like, another roundabout, like, not good defense?
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I mean, it's kind of like she's using that as a defense to say, why am I being blamed for this? I would never out someone's sexuality. Not that there's a sexuality even, but you know what I'm saying? Like, did you feel that way? And he's like, well, that was a pretty leading question.
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Well, I'll tell you who agrees with you, Meredith. She's like, oh, okay, Andy, maybe you think it's a huge waste of time, but as far as I can tell, my toddler's being maligned by a podcaster somewhere. No, no, I'm just saying this interview just sounds like the guy let him into the thing. And Meredith's like, well, but don't take the bait then, okay?
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Like, don't be queer baited is what I'm just trying to say, or just say I shouldn't have said that. He gaslit me tonight singing it.
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So you're in this together. We are in the trenches. And when you go on to a podcast, you are violating a sisterhood, a covenant, a pact that comes between us because we are all doing this. And you know what? You violated that, Sean. Thank you, Heather, for the monologue.
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Well, he said that I use my son, his sexuality and his community to my maximum advantage. And I believe what was cut out from the episode is he also said my son's Banana Republic card. And guess what? I have my own, too.
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And his wife is Angie Kay. And his wife is Angie Kay. His wife looks like Cher.
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It is. I agree. And so he's like, you know, this was in a different context. You know, the way I saw it looking from the outside, it was her and Monica had something to do with it. And during that time, you know, you must be able to understand how we could have thought or I could have thought that like, you know, that was maybe a backpedal. And that was like my perception of the time.
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And, you know, look, at the end of the day, I didn't know you well enough to take your word for it at the time. I just knew you were Just someone who seemed infinitely iconic and who I would love to see perform at a club some night, you know, maybe doing some show tunes. That's all I could think of when I saw you. That's it.
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So, and he's like, why are my pants unzipped? All right, well, Meredith, what do you think about what Sean just said? Well, my reaction to that is that his wife was told at Apres Ski and again at Greek Easter that I didn't do this. So the podcast that was six to eight months after that. And the only person who brought this up was Monica.
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And Monica flat out said the day she brought it up and then again at Greek Easter that I didn't do it. So I don't know why I keep believing that. Why should they keep believing that I did?
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I love when Heather monologues, she puts her finger up and sends it on like a model train, like a virtual model train track. She goes around in a circle with it. She's like, we are all guilty of talking at Greek Easter. We are all guilty of rumors and we cannot let this come between us. We are a sisterhood and we are in the trenches together.
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No, at Apres Ski, she said it was never Meredith. At Apres Ski, I was sitting there and I heard it with my own ears. You have to pull the audio on that. Okay, this is not fair to me. You have to pull the audio on that. By the way, they mentioned Apres Ski so many times, I thought that Bravo was going to literally reboot their show, Apres Ski.
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This is exhausting. I can see why they're talking. It is. It's because it's so, it's really is so stupid. And he's like, all right, well, Angie, guess what? Not only did you get Sin or Snowflake, not only did you get First Seed at the reunion, guess what? Control Room is backing you up and saying that Angie is correct. Congratulations, the trifecta. You got production behind you.
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I do also think it's wild that Angie and Sean are still on this because I think no one who watched the show ever believed that Meredith said this, that Meredith started this rumor. Meredith... when they asked her like, what'd you hear? So this is what people are saying, but she wasn't saying it in a way of like, well, guess what everyone, I want to tell everyone. Here's what I hear.
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It wasn't like a, here's what I hear. It's like, well, you want to hear like the shit that people are saying, this is what people have said. It wasn't not in like a, I did not take it as a vicious rumor mongering kind of way. And I, I am like shocked that watching the season back that Angie and Sean are still feeling that way.
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Yeah, I think that you are onto something there.
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Look, the lies that I'm okay with, that I think are fun on the housewives, is when someone tells a little fib to improve their reputation, to sort of like, maybe like, you know, they're kind of lying to kind of like, you know, make it sound like their business is doing better than it is, or their marriage is doing a little bit better, because those lies always come out.
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And then they dig deeper and deeper, and the stupid little fib becomes a giant snowball, and it goes wild and becomes a mess. The lies I don't like are when Bryn blatantly lies about what someone said, because now you're being an unreliable narrator to your castmates and to the audience, and that's not cool.
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But if the lie comes from your own vanity, I am all for it, because that's hilarious, and it always gets totally blown up in their faces.
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Sean looks like he wants to cry. He's just like, this is so much. I just want to go back to the salon and do a blowout. So then Meredith's like, I mean, this is never going to end until you actually play the audio. You know what, Andy? I'm getting angry. I'm like, you're getting angry? I thought we'd been there for the past 10 minutes on this show.
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Is this one, is she standing now? Cause at some point she stands up and is now pointing. I don't remember when she stands up.
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He's like, Meredith, we've established that you didn't start this. Are you saying that I started this? Are you saying that I have an eating disorder, Andy, with my disability? He's like, I literally said nothing. Oh, really? You think that I'm now using Brooks's gayness to get an advantage? Thanks a lot, Andy. I did not.
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and how is it that they like and also given that these like these how do they not realize why do they never have a moment where they say wow monica said this to me and she said this to you wow she really was messing with us how did these two women not realize this yeah um because it's not about her it's just about hating each other you know and like trying to make it look like the other person's a liar so andy's like but but you know i mean you're dealing with an unreliable person i mean
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By the way, stay tuned for Rooney and another amazing episode, guys. Trust me. So Meredith is like, well, unless I know that you're going to play that audio and I pray when Monica very clearly says, Meredith didn't say it. I did. I did. So Sean's like, hey, Meredith, Meredith, don't leave. Don't leave. Let's resolve this. Also, can I get an autograph real quick before you go? Thanks so much.
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She likes to take baths and she has a cute son. And also, she's just really cool in everything she does. I need a hero.
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I mean, it's all that's been eating and drinking nonstop since we got here. And, you know, after we're done with this recording, it's bagel Thursday and I'm in New York City. So I'm going to get a bagel for my favorite bagel shop after this. And I am so excited.
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flipping it back around it's so fucking funny i just want to put like some champagne glasses to get dusted you know yeah just wait for it whip back around i think it's time for meredith to be cast on next season of the traitors i'm just gonna put that out there i think she would be very very funny on it um uh as you know assuming they don't vote her off first so andy goes oh Okay, hold on.
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There was one moment where Monica said to Angie, she's saying this, meaning you, and we see it. And then there's another moment where Monica said, Meredith is not saying this. And then we see that. So Angie's like, how do you know what Meredith is even talking about? She's like, well, I didn't hear it from Meredith. Monica, oh, sorry. I'm reading the flashback.
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But basically what happens is they show the footage
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okay right so yeah oh my gosh so then then andy's basically like but the most important thing is no she told her on camera this is what meredith is saying but the most important thing is she's the one who brought it up you never brought it up i'm agreeing with you meredith thank you thank you thank you and so she's like finally got what she wanted she has been vindicated she got the clips played and monica is also excited because she got to be on tv again so good for her
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John's like, yeah, I'm pretty embarrassed for the second reaction when I like flopped myself right in front of Justin. And it was like really embarrassing. And everyone in America laughed at my strange, my strange motions. It wasn't to start a fight or anything. It was mainly to kind of diffuse the situation. And obviously I didn't.
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All right, John, in Mexico, Whitney revealed that you and Lisa allegedly participated in a threesome. Are there any videos? Can you share them with me? I won't show anyone. And she's like, it was a rumor. It was a rumor. And Andy's like, well, had you heard that rumor before? He's like, no, I mean, no. Okay, well, Lisa, you associated Sean's name with circle jerks while in Mexico. Yes, I did.
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Oh, that is just adorable. Better be good.
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Yeah, exactly. So Lisa's like, okay, here's what happened, for real. For real, guys, for real, for real, for real. Okay, I can't even articulate a sentence because I'm, like, so upset, but I was like, how would you feel if someone said this about Sean? How would you feel if someone said this about you? He was like...
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Yeah, but she already knows how that feels because people keep accusing me of being part of circle jerks.
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It's something about Caribbean food, right? So Andy's like, um, Whitney wants to say something to John.
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Is it a little old bald man? Old bald man. I want... They have very famous hot chocolate. I went there once years ago in Paris, and I literally had the best hot chocolate of all time.
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Justin's like, um, okay. Because I had just committed to myself that I was not going to get involved in the drama. Like, that morning it happened, Andy. And like, I had my own little meditation of like, okay, I'm just going to enjoy this moment. And honestly, when he did it, it was kind of funny. I did enjoy the moment.
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Sorry, inferior to Paris. I mean, I'll go there later. It's really cool that you got your Angelina thing on 6th Avenue. I got mine kind of like in Paris, so... So, sorry.
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So until I say it, like, I didn't, you know, I didn't, until I saw it, I didn't realize how aggressive it was. So I do regret not having a voice in that moment in time. But also, kind of hilarious. Yeah.
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Yeah, I can't stand up for, I mean, it was such a cringy moment. I'm not going to stand up for Seth, but what I will say is the way it really read to me was he, like, as someone who, that this happens to a lot, where sometimes you don't stick the landing to, like, your joke or your moment, and you just accidentally overshoot.
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You know, sometimes, like, you overshoot, and I think that he kind of, like, overshot his leg.
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oh man, I'm never going to live this down. So I'm not there to defend Seth, but I also can empathize because I've definitely been there where I've had that biatch moment where like, oh, that came out so much harder and I was trying to be funny and it just landed like awfully. So I get it.
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yeah wait he didn't say that didn't no he did he said he said well it wasn't intended like the way that angie the way angie just called my wife a bitch twice in fact yeah bitch bitch he's basically saying like you call my wife a bitch so like that was much worse than me saying biatch right and she's like oh wait a minute and she called me a bitch well i will unless we roll that footage i am leaving
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He's like, yeah, she called you a bitch twice while I was sitting right here. Well, that's abusive, according to your husband, so I guess you're an abuser. Case closed.
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okay todd i've been really wanting to ask you your reaction to seeing bronwyn share with the ladies in mexico the story of your emotional affair he's like well i have to apologize because i haven't seen it andy oh you really haven't watched the scene of your wife accusing you of infidelity on national tv really okay Yeah, but we talked about it, Andy. It's hard to watch.
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Literally, it's hard to watch. We've tried all sorts of plugins on that Palm Pilot. We just cannot watch it on his device.
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We attached rabbit ears to the Palm Pilot. Didn't work. So Todd is like, he's like, well, anything that Bronwyn had shared would be more than I would have wanted her to share. Now I'm just going to cross my arms and sit here very seriously for the next 10 minutes.
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You know, one of my issues is I just feel like I'm not good enough. So when I see him take a latte from a barista, yeah, it does. It does trigger feelings that I'm not good enough. And I'm not proud of it. I'm not saying I'm proud of it. But it's something I do. It's something I feel. It's something I'm working through. It's something I'm working through with Gwen. Gwendolyn! Yes.
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And I am just, you know, going through it. But that is my truth. And I have to be honest with my truth right now. Mm-hmm.
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Come on, man. Maybe we will when Brittany comes out, because if you remember, it was Bronwyn stealing Brittany's moment, where she's like, guys, I have an announcement. My daughter, she woke up this morning and had Cheerios. And they're like, well, let me tell you something. Todd cheated on me.
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You can do this. I love that. So then we see a flashback of the scene and then we come back and Heather's like, I rallied hard for you. In this sisterhood, we rallied for each other. People don't understand what happens here in this room between us, but we all understand we are in the trenches together and we are rallying. I'm like, okay, settle down, Heather. You rallied for her.
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She's like, you rallied for her because you knew you were just collecting information to use against her at the reunion.
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Right. So Heather says after that, that I rallied hard for you. And she's like, so did he do it or did he not do it? And Bronwyn's like, okay, I want to be very clear about this by talking about something else and not being clear about it. Okay. So when I said this to you on the boat, it was not happening in real time.
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What I was trying to explain to you is that I have an issue where I don't feel good enough. Mm-hmm. And there is a significant amount of things in my life that have not made me feel good enough. Being a single parent, being ostracized from the church, being terrorized by Heather Day.
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And when I felt like everything I said in this group of women was misconstrued or misunderstood or looked at negatively, it does trigger this narrative that I'm not good enough. And that brings me back to a time when I didn't feel good enough when Todd... When he said a passing word to a stranger and had an emotional affair in that moment. And I just wanted to clarify that. That's all.
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So Lisa has a good point because she goes, well, this is where it's confusing because you held me very accountable for not being like, fuck Todd. And then you guys, then now you're saying that like, you know, you and I, you just had like a conversation because, well, I didn't want you to say fuck Todd. And she's like, but where did you go?
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Lisa's like but like where you said maybe Lisa can relate to Todd because maybe she's cheated and she's and basically she's like you basically were mad at me and Meredith for like quote unquote taking Todd's side and then implying that we cheated when it turns out this was all over like an emotional affair that wasn't even that much of an emotional affair and by the way
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So then Bronwyn is like, well, when Todd and I talked this through, Todd gave me a fifth anniversary gift, and it was a ring with five diamonds and also five new promises. I'm like, Bronwyn... Like, if there's an emotional affair, yeah.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And I don't understand that mentality. Like, oh, I cheated, so here, I'm going to give you something that you can put on your ring so whenever you look at it, you can remember the time that I cheated on you. You know what I would want? I would want not five promises. How about five sessions of therapy? How about that instead? Nice.
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says oh well uh support love fidelity and matlock matlock on tuesdays and transparency transparency that was one todd and todd forgot that one that's great well guess what i have a new delivery on the way so it'll be fun and get a new ring over this one well meredith was upset because whitney in that conversation you basically inferred that lisa and meredith had affairs so we see that flashback and meredith we come out of it and meredith is like
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
Well, my intentions were very clearly to be supportive of you, and it was not even questionable. And then the next thing I know, you're having a powwow with three other women, and it results in me and Lisa being accused of cheating. And now I'm just hearing that this wasn't really that big of a deal. It wasn't that big of an affair. It wasn't this and that and the other.
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Well, don't hold me accountable then.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
But I think that actually Bronwyn, Bronwyn does a really good job here. She saves it. I think she, she does a full head nodding. Yeah. She did a full head nodding culpability moment. She goes, you know, when we got off the boat, I was very upset and I'd just been very vulnerable and it didn't seem like it went super well. And I came to both of you that night and I said, I don't feel good about it.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And then you and I also had another conversation on the beach the next day after it. And, you know, it was after horse riding and I specifically said, and I really appreciate that. And you gave me your point of view and it was very vulnerable of you to share and something that I need to take into consideration. So she was kind of like... Yes, but also, I know I messed up.
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I already told you I messed up, and it's not my fault the editors didn't even include the scene that we're about to see until right now.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
It was actually a nice scene because Bronwyn was like, I was in my feelings. You were right. I was not in a place to hear it, but now I hear it now and everything. So it was actually... I actually thought it was... It made me happy because I feel like nothing's getting resolved in this reunion. And this was a moment where it seemed like there was resolve because Meredith was like, thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you, Bronwyn. Thank you. Thank you for that. I was like, oh my goodness, we finally got somewhere.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
So Andy is like, all right, Todd, Bronwyn revealed that Gwen was the one who caught you messaging another woman. Ha, ha, ha. That must have been hard.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
You're okay. Do you want a butterscotch? Yes, I do. So then Andy's like, okay, well, Angie, you said in Mexico, you learned more about Bronwyn's marriage on the yacht than you knew about Lisa's entire life. Do you think that Lisa only opens up about safe topics and not about what's really going on? You know, watching that and watching her cry, I felt really bad.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
It was like leaving the moussaka in the oven too long. And what I was trying to say, Bronwyn barely knew any of us and she divulged a lot of information. I mean, like she put her whole life out there and, And that's a risk as a couple to do that.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And Mary's like, Mary's like barely said anything. Cause well, she's has her big moment coming up soon, but she's like, well, that's why everyone loves her. That's why people love Bronwyn. She's a fan favorite. And Angie is like, basically Angie is saying like, you know, she put herself out there. It was like a lot more. And, but she also like, she does apologize to Lisa and I didn't mean to.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
Okay, we got a lot of tweets wanting to know, what is the status of Seth and Meredith's relationship? We saw you were in Ohio a lot. Are you two living separate lives? How often are you together? What's happening? Does anyone know more information about Sean's circle jerk?
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And, you know, I think our number one question is, have you guys been on watch what happens live? So now we can say we have been there in person. We did do some zoom stuff with them over the, and during the pandemic, but this was our first time, which was super exciting. And we're really, we had so much, we're going to have so much fun.
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Well, when I kind of do an annual review of our marriage, you know, as long as it's above an average of 51% of the time, I'm staying in the game, Andy. Biatch! That's a pretty low bar, honey. well, it kind of helps that we're not physically together, right? And he's like, yeah, Andy, the fact that we're not together a lot often, I highly recommend commuting.
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So it feels like a first date on the weekends for me. So I see her every weekend and sometimes more than that.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
So, Seth, a lot of Twitter questions. Do you have a side chicken, Ohio? Oh, my God. I can't believe you asked that. He's like, no, I definitely don't. A side chicken? I don't understand. That's some sort of chicken. He's eating chicken in Ohio. I don't understand the question, Andy.
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Okay, Sean, how do you feel about seeing Seth hold his hands up like that? Does that give you any memories of any experiences?
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All right. I want to thank the husbands for being here. Special shout out for Todd. You did it. You almost cried. I almost broke you. Didn't quite get there, but next year, looking forward to it.
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But then in terms of another question people often ask us is, have you guys ever been on Bitch Sesh? It's hosted by Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider. And now we can happily say the answer is yes. We did an episode with them, which I believe is coming out today. And it was... So fun. Like, just had the best time.
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So they all stand up to leave, and then Bronwyn's like, hey, Todd, Todd, we might just want to hold on a sec. Let John walk off, because you guys have a little spiciness. I mean, that was unnecessary for him to tell you to watch your mouth. He's the one who needs to watch his, and he needs to watch his wife's.
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So now we move into the Mary Cosby section, which was really – we talked about this at the top of the episode. It's like a beautiful, moving, emotional section that, honestly, probably not so easy for us to make fun of. So we can just do a high-level recap of basically what happened, which is that essentially –
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
They talked about Robert going to rehab, doing really, really well now, Mary being a great role model for people. Everyone was crying. Andy's crying. I was crying watching it. It was a hard watch.
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It was a long one. Well, it was really a beautiful moment. It was really very compelling to watch. Angie broke down because Mary told Angie, if your mom could do it all again, she would have done it differently. And that really affected Angie. It was something that Angie, I think, really needed to hear. And so that was a very raw moment for her.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And then Whitney obviously breaking down about her dad. I mean, that must be really tough. And I liked hearing the stories about how Heather watched the scene with her daughters, Whitney watched it with her kids, and the scene inspired them to have conversations with their kids about it, which I think is actually so incredibly important.
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And I hope and I imagine a lot of parents watching it also agree. maybe watch that scene with their kids. Cause it was really powerful, but it's, it's like, you know, we used to have afterschool specials and not like afterschool specials fix anything, but there were like a lot of, there was like a lot of attention to these moments.
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I feel like growing up and I don't know if they really exist anymore. And it was kind of, I think it was important for a good, like parent child gather around the TV moment that hopefully can
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So please go seek out that episode and listen and subscribe and all that fun stuff. We had the greatest time. It's been such a fun week. What a fun couple of gals.
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Now let me pour some coffee, mate, into my mountain dew and some Italian syrup. No, but it was really, it was beautiful. It was also interesting to hear how Robert Sr. reacted, which was that he commended Mary, which was also great. Like, I didn't know what his reaction would be.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
You know? Well, that's why, because Mary was like, yeah, I've never had a friend like Angie. Because Angie's like, wow, you know, Mary... you really were, you were like dialed in and like, you were so much more present. And, and, and Mary's like, well, cause for the first time I finally had a friend and finally someone who would listen to me and finally someone who understood me.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And they just kept on cutting to Meredith. Like I want to get mad at her, but she just had her whole scene with her about her son. So I'm just going to figure this one out. And Andy's like, well, I don't want to start anything. Just kidding. I do. I mean, you and Meredith had a nice friendship. What about her? Yeah. So we go to commercial break, but Mary saves it.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
Mary's like, well, you know, my relationship with Meredith is different and Meredith is beautiful and she's a beautiful friend and I love Meredith, but she's a busy woman and she's traveling and travels the world, does all these things. But she basically is like, no, I love Meredith, but... Just not as much as Angie.
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We really did. And so they said, I think the episode's coming out today. If it's not out today, it'll be out in a little bit. But wow, that was our 400th episode. And we just got on like a house on fire, as they say.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
I'm really into Tzatziki now. Well, Colin on Twitter thinks Meredith is clearly jealous of Mary and Andy's new friendship. Well, Colin on Twitter can believe whatever he wants, but it's not true. I'm not jealous at all. So Andy's like, well, Mary and Meredith, your friendship really fell apart over Mary's brunch. So we see all that. And Andy's like-
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When did you start noticing the breakdown in your relationship? Well, you know, I don't know if it was a breakdown, so to speak. I think it was more that we just both weren't like Mary had a lot going on. She was hanging out with Angie Kay a lot. I'm not jealous. And I felt very much under attack at that lunch. So I just think it was a clashing moment.
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I love Mary goes, oh, those bangs were a little bit of a type of suffering.
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No, these are notes in preparation for today.
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I've been called a drug addict, a bulimic, a cheater, homeless, mentally unstable, next level psychotic, disassociation, mother, thank you Sean for that one, multiple personality disorder, a snitch, a liar, my appearance has been made of, my hearing aids have been made fun of, and I've been insulted as a mother, I'm a grudge holder, a whore, and I play the victim, and those are the ones that I can remember.
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I like that Angie's like, well, I can prove half of those at least, you know? Yeah. So then we see flashbacks of people. Actually, I'm sorry. Angie's like, but what about the things that you have said to other people? She's like, I have not said a lot. Then we have a montage. Like, you are a monster. Get out of my face. Angie is a pit bull.
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I totally agree. So Andy's like... all right well ruda from vegas says how exactly did mary use you for three years when she was the one who didn't talk about your marriage or your son well i will say this was obviously a heated moment and i'm not coming for mary because she's the most popular person on the show i just don't like feeling disposable
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And to say that about my character, I'd appreciate it if you just say it wasn't true. Meredith's like, well, I just said that's how I felt in the moment. I don't think it's true. I just felt that way in the moment.
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Don't get her started with a who's on first moment. It really is.
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We got along like light bulbs in a lamp.
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i want to give me a hug so they go they hug it's really nice and mary's like your boobs are they smaller yes do you not remember i actually didn't remember either that she had a reduction i didn't either or maybe she just took the breastplate off remember that one that she wore in like season two people were like is that a drag queen breastplate what is she wearing
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
So Mary basically is like she kind of has like a wish, which is like you and you and Angie need to work it out. You need to work it out, guys.
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It will be fun. And we are going to do next week's Salt Lake City in Salt Lake City, which will be a real treat. It'll be our first ever Salt Lake and Salt Lake moment. So if you are in that area, please come to our show and enjoy it, because I think it's going to be really wild. Really. Recapping Salt Lake City in the city itself.
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Erin McNicholas. She don't miss no trickless. Jamie. She has no less namey. You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go, we all go for Hugo.
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We could all learn from Jennifer Kearns.
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Knock, knock, knocking on Katie Mannock's door. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.
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This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian.
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Have a heck of a time with Rebecca. She sure is swell. It's Raquel.
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It's Sedana. Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. The Bay Area Betches. Betches.
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It's Amanda V. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD. She's got a leg up. It's Beth Ani.
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Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish, it's Jen Plish. She's not harsh, she's Jill Hirsch. She's a little bit loony, Junie. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. We love him madly, it's Kyle Pod Shadley.
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We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it, it's Lola Alcalani.
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She's the queen bee. It's Sarah Lemke. Shannon out of a can and Anthony. Let's take off with Tamla Plain.
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#2710 RHOSLC S5E18: Let’s Talk About the Huzzzbands
And Lisa's like, Todd, Todd, I get where you're coming from. He's like, you asserted that Bronwyn had a miscarriage. Watch your tone. Watch your tone. I'm not watching my tone. You watch your tone.
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By the way, you know what I'm turning on tonight? Your tone. I'm going to watch it. You better watch your tone, too.
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Yeah, I think there's a very, like in so many ways, in so many ways. So Todd's like, really? Really? I need to watch my tone? So John's like, where's security? Should we get security? I'm afraid of the Todd father. And Lisa's like, listen, I understand why that would be extremely hurtful and extremely offensive.
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So you can like put on a show and pretend that I didn't because I'm not putting on a show, Lisa. It's just how I feel about it. And I will nod you into submission.
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Watch your tone. Watch your tone.
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He put his anger in a seatbelt. And by seatbelt, I mean, he crossed his arms like, all right, I'm just trapped in the anger.
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Yeah, you know, corporate executives, they run hot and then they cool down right away, I feel like, because they're going to run hot about something new soon. Listen, why am I being apologetic to corporate executives? Never mind. Fuck that.
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I was like, guys, listen who needs the most misunderstood group in America right now? Corporate executives. Yeah. They have no power in this country. It makes me sad. They're disenfranchised.
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Yeah, so Angie's like, well, I know that there were off-camera conversations about me, and you know what? I'll never be able to prove it, so all I have to do at this point is just say, Meredith swore she didn't play a role in it, and I have no choice but to move on with it. Which is actually... Like, it's begrudging, but it's her way of saying, like, well, I have to take Meredith's word for it.
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And she could have said it nicer. She could have said, you know what? Meredith and I have talked. I want to move forward with Meredith, so I'm taking her word for it, and I believe her. But Meredith is like, no, I want full exoneration.
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God, I can only wish. So Meredith is like, he's so cute.
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So it's like, well, it's not that simple, Angie, because you spent two years making false claims and you spent two years accusing me of something I didn't do. Relentlessly insisting that I did it and in turn have actually done all the things that to me as retaliation, you've spoken poorly about my business. You've spoken poorly about my marriage. You've spoken poorly about blah, blah.
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But the point is you've accused me of talking about your home and your business and you talk about my home.
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Sean's like, you did. You were on film talking about how Monaco could take her home. And Meredith's like, well, do you honestly think I'll be like, oh, go take her home? I mean, everyone knows you can't just take the house of someone who's in the Greek mafia.
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I mean, it was said in a very negative light. I mean, yes, I do a winter ski rental for the tenth time because I only live in Utah for half the year. And he's like, but if it's a rental, why is it negative?
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And are you going to also watch Severance season two? Because everyone's talking about that one.
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I mean, just because you're on a show that values material objects and wealth and possession, why is it negative to assume that you can't afford to own the house you live in but you don't live in?