Andy Fickman

He was my partner.

We started a theater company, had no money, borrowed everything, and were literally stealing pencils from the mailroom at night so we could have a theater company.

Oh, yeah.

Just to clarify, that was the mail room.

Worked the mail room.

Smart cocktail.

Push the cart.

Literally, like it could not have been more out of some like fabulous Teddy Z. I was in the mailroom with a tie and people who were like lawyers and doctors and dancers, male dancers, a lot of male dancers in the mailroom.

I just wanted to meet more guys that I wasn't meeting in the mailroom.

Glitter it up.

Glitter bomb.

So now I started a theater company because out here in Los Angeles, L.A., because I wanted to be a director, but I didn't have and nobody wanted to see my Bud's chicken commercial.

And so I didn't have a reel.

And I thought, well, if I put on plays, I think everybody in L.A.

loves the theater.

They'll all race out and see it and give me a chance.

That was about 10 years of a lot of theater.

But I was doing development for Bette Midler, doing development for Gene Wilder, and yeah, Bette Midler, yeah.

For a hetero guy, my story is rather unique.

And then I was working for Robert Davi.