Andy Greenwald

I don't think he's wrong.

I have a William H. Macy and Boogie Nights attitude towards people working between the two mediums.

So I would say it's interesting the way you're framing it, because I think there's a different way to look at I think there's a way to look at the rise in an important way, certainly for the big picture podcast and the movie industry to look at the success of those movies as.

fresh blood coming in, fresh voices, fresh perspective, and audience's desire to be taken on those trips.

What I would counter with is the most recent comparison to something like a phenomenon like Backrooms would be The Pit.

And the reason I say The Pit is not because these are young people showing you a fresh way in.

That is the opposite of what The Pit is.

It is old hands.

What both have done though, I would say, is remind people why we engage with these mediums in the first place in a collective celebratory way.

Meaning The Pit has both reminded multiple generations and taught a new generation that this little box used to give us a story every week.

And it used to give us stories that we were excited about, surprised by, compelled by, and it built over time.

And we would talk about it.

I think it is safe to say that like in terms of water cooler chat, if people even, for those of you who aren't working from home, like the pit dominates.

People were talking about it in a way that we used to talk about television shows.

So I think that in terms of putting things back in the center of culture in a way that felt both affirming for those of us who work in those spaces, but also giving a sense of optimism that maybe a new generation might begin to speak that language.

That would be the comparison.

Well, I think the comparison, though, I think Cape Fear's the margin for Cape Fear isn't going to convince anyone.

I think when we talked about it before that at whatever level these conversations exist at Apple, I don't think they are actively saying or at least they're not even addressing the idea of like reinventing Cape Fear for a new generation.

This is comfort prestige food for a generation that doesn't go to the movies anymore.

The comparison I think that Craig was right to point out would be there's a fucking He-Man movie opening this weekend.