Andy Halliday

And, and I'm coming at it slightly differently, Andy.

I agree.

I want Anthropic to survive.

I'm yes.

But I do think that there is a secret sauce that they have put together to

that is the experience in the terminal interface that is very different than the terminal interface with Codex or the other similar things.

I said you guys don't use the terminal in the same kind of way.

Do you now, Brian?

You didn't before.

Which is why I'm harping on this, because it is the terminal experience that is different for people, and it is...

what is sticky so if it's not sticky you fool but i don't think you're you have the understanding of what this could possibly be it's just a tiny little shift and if somebody else can make that tiny little shift in a way that feels familiar that's a potential secret sauce but cool

And they're using the terminal.

So I'm not...

I'm not sure what, I'm not sure why we're having this level of the conversation.

This is a story that broke this morning.

I am aware of it because Ben Bites included it in his newsletter.

These are terminal people who use terminals or IDEs.

It's that kind of interface.

You guys don't.

I'm not saying your people should, Brian.