Andy Halliday

you can pretty much throw anything at it, at AI, at this mesh network of agents and super sub-agents and everything else.

And there's some models used over here and open source models used over here and whatever.

But the sum total of this is when you speak to the orchestrator, not only is it able to answer at

an agi level that consensus it's self-improving right like we just talked about so it's making itself better as it's getting the global inputs from the sub industry i think that's what you know that's that's what i think is going to end up happening because that's where everything seems to be moving towards so i think initially the idea was is there going to be one model to rule them all that was sort of old world old year two years ago thinking about agi oh we were watching singular models get better and better and better

And so it was easy to look at that graph and go, well, at some point, OpenAI's ChatGPT 14.2 is probably some version of AGI.

If we're at five right now, it's easy to watch that.

And what we've really seen, I mean, especially at the end of 2025 and 2026, is these agentic workflows, these swarms of agents or whatever you want to call it, obviously the open cloud code.

So it's really interesting to see

The patterns shift from what we initially said, oh, that's our understanding of what AGI is to now.

No, no, no.

It's a much more complex network that is probably vertically focused at first.

But then, again, if I have a thousand sub-industries who have all agreed that they have AGI,

agi then what does the larger you know you go up one step from that and you go well now i have agi at whatever the next tier up because i have a thousand ones that all have consensus that they're agi so it just keeps building like a structure that way until there is actually a universal consensus of agi which may be just supplanted by super intelligence asi right

So I don't know.

I mean, you know, it's just I'm guessing like the rest of us, but that seems to be where this is going.

2026 definitely, as we were saying at the top of the show, as we end the first quarter of 2026, that seems to be the path.

Do you see it differently, Andy, or is that kind of where you see it?

Yeah.

And at that point, are we really even calling it AI?

Right.