Andy Stumpf

And that opened up the door to Eddie Bravo.

So Eddie Bravo, he learned a lot of his techniques from Jean-Jacques as well.

And a lot of his style was based around Jean-Jacques' principles, which is don't rely on the gi.

Because you don't always have the game.

It's a good tool to use if you have it.

If you're fighting a guy who's got a winter coat on, it's awesome.

The last thing you want to do is fight a judo guy if you're wearing a winter coat.

So not optimal for how your head's going to feel when it hits the concrete?

And you ain't going to be able to do shit to stop that.

I asked you early on, I think we had linked up when I was, it was actually, it was right at the beginning of COVID.

I was a white belt and I asked you how you train and manage grip stuff.

And you gave me a piece of advice that I still have, I still utilize.

And you said, whether you have a gi on or don't have a gi on, just focus on taking no gi grips.

I was like, son of a bitch.

Yeah.

That's what I always did.

The only gi technique that I really love is the clock choke technique.

When you get a deep grip on the collar and you funnel that left arm underneath and spin, oh my God, that's instant death.

That clock choke is so nasty.

I prefer the cross collar.