Andy Stumpf

No, I've heard stories of him lining black belts up, telling them what he is going to catch them with.

Yep.

And then having like 10 of them watch him catch everybody before them with the same thing and them having absolutely no ability to stop it.

Yep.

That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

Well, that's Gordon Ryan, too.

Gordon Ryan, one of the things that Gordon did, I was there when he did it, one of the times he did it.

He did it multiple times.

He would write down on a piece of paper how he was going to submit his opponent and seal it in an envelope.

And before the match started, he would walk over to the commentators and say, open this when it's over.

and then you would see him catch somebody in a triangle, and then he would open up the envelope and it showed a triangle.

And he had multiple opportunities to catch someone in different things, and he's like, no, no, no.

See, I could do that too, but it would be what I'm gonna get caught with.

Here's the most likely thing that I'm gonna mess up and get caught with.

Well, that's the thing about starting when you're 40 versus starting when you're 12 or whatever it is.

It's like you're only going to be able to get to a certain height.

Well, also, I recognize that I'm an aggressive hobbyist.

I've competed twice only because my wife was coaching at tournaments.

I was like, well, I'll go spend time with you.