Andy Stumpf

So by 97, I guess I was 30.

Yeah, I guess I was 30, somewhere around there.

So that was the first UFC.

And I was already training at that time.

I was training at Carlson Gracie's with Vitor Belfort.

Vitor Belfort was there.

Murillo Bustamante was there.

It was amazing.

Just stumbled upon that place.

I actually went to Hickson's first.

But I was so ignorant, I thought Carlson Gracie, Hickson Gracie, I thought it was the same.

And Hickson was further away, and Carlson's was closer.

I was like, oh, I found a closer Gracie jujitsu, I'll go here.

And then it was also the time where extreme fighting was out.

which was John Peretti, who was one of the commentators for the early UFC, was now doing this, and it was really good.

Like Mario Sperry was fighting, Igor Zinoviev, and these guys, a lot of these guys were from Carlson Gracie's, so I saw the Carlson Gracie, the two bulldog logos, which is fucking dope, and then I found out that it was on Hawthorne Street in LA, which is like really close to the Comedy Store.

I was like, oh, this is perfect.

Because I was living in North Hollywood, I would just drive there, it was much closer.

Efficiency, yeah.

It was much closer.