Andy

You think that

The exodus.

Yeah.

Pun intended.

The exodus happened

earlier than the current observation that now instagram is leading the charge of users of instagram choosing to be dissatisfied with the addictive quality of it and the algorithmic thing and i i know myself that i can find my i find myself you know continuing to scroll and tick tock used to interrupt me after about an hour and say you've been scrolling too long you know take a break

And I am deliberately trying to not go for more than a few minutes before I put the phone down and I get back to work.

So it is addictive.

And this is, I think, the driving motivation for why there is this both exodus from X and also the deletion deactivation pattern that's happening on the other kinds of accounts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Got that.

So, um,

I just wanted to mention, Gareth joined us here just a few minutes ago.

And yes, we talked about Jen Spark's funding round at the top of the show.

And now, of course, Carl, who's my colleague and co-kudo-er of Jen Spark.

Yeah, it's my go-to.

And I wonder whether Manus is a little bit better.

Should I have been using Manus all this time?

But GenSparks always satisfied me.