Angela Meyer

Yeah, and running a dance troupe and all of this kind of stuff.

And also I think in the arts, there was a perception that you don't want to sell out as well.

And so I definitely had internalised some of that.

and um and you know similarly had had a fantastic time you know had gone sailing across the world with the baby and you know all of this wonderful kind of things but for me um you know my background was my my family didn't come from a lot of money and my father had been bankrupt a couple of times and so even thinking about money was quite painful and I'd sort of had this idea that um

Somehow it would magically turn out.

And actually our research shows that 30% of people think that either the lotto gods are going to come and sprinkle money or you're going to win some sort of prize.

And I think in the arts, you know, you do have this kind of like, I've just got to work really hard.

I'll just write that book.

I'll make that film.

And it will kind of magically happen.

And I was running an agency with another friend and we got this big job in Australia for a big superannuation company over there.

And we'd sort of, I don't want to say we blagged it, but you're doing a pitch and you're like, yeah, we can do this.

And then we got the job and I was like, I don't actually know really a lot about this.

And so I had to school up really, really quickly.

And that's when I sort of discovered that there's this 25% of women are retiring into poverty.

And

you know, as a card carrying feminist, I was so outraged.

Like the rage is the thing that got me.

And I was like, this cannot happen.

We cannot be letting women retire into poverty after this lifetime of caregiving.