Angie Bond Simpson

Exactly.

Try to forecast that.

Every piece of infrastructure for every, I'd say, major critical function, whether that's the airport or whether that's the power grid, has a temperature rating to it.

So you may have heard there are temperatures where Sky Harbor airplanes, they can't land at Sky Harbor because the tarmac's not rated for that.

And, you know, that's the analogy I would use for the power grid is...

The power grid is not necessarily designed to run full tilt at those extreme temperatures without having the ability to cool off.

So things like transformers and anything that has rubber or plastic components will degrade faster in the heat.

You know, I can't think of any times that we got that close, you know, my awareness in this position.

What I will say is you don't have to have the nightmare scenario happen for large amounts of stress within the operators to occur.

So, you know, think about in 2023,

It was the hottest summer on record for Phoenix.

We had over a month that temperatures were over 110 degrees, you know, consecutive days where our customers and our community had high heat, 110 degrees.

Right.

And if you think about what that's like, right, you can't open a window at 110 degrees.

Even when it's nighttime and it cools to 87 degrees, you can't open a window then.

And if the power goes out, you're not just going to write it out.

You're trying to think about where am I going to go?

So that's always in the back of mind in the summer.

But when you have these consecutive days, you start recognizing the system I've been planning for, for the hottest hour of the hottest day of the hottest year.

Those days are occurring back to back to back.