Angus King
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first heard Jan 2025
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Pablo Torre Finds Out · This (Independent) Senator Has a Warning. Who Will Listen? · 22 Apr 2025
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In other words, there's writing in The Federalist that the Congress would not cave into an autocratic president because they wouldn't want to give up their own authority.
Self-interest as a check. It was supposed to, that's the way it was supposed to work. But the framers didn't contemplate political parties. They hated the idea of political parties. In the Federalist Papers, Washington's Farewell Address talks about the danger of parties, but sure enough, within about five or 10 years, we had the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. We had Adams and Jefferson.
And so now what we have is party loyalty is trumping, excuse the term, institutional loyalty. Rather than fighting for the prerogatives, these folks are putting their party first, saying, you know, we've got to be loyal to our president. And it doesn't help that this president is notoriously vindictive. The current rumor is they're being told, if you buck us, we will primary you. And this is new.
Musk will pay for it. Wow. It's one thing to face a primary. It's another thing to face a primary with an opponent with unlimited funds.
So it's a sort of double-barreled threat. It's easy for me to say this. I'm not in their position. I'm not, you know, a senator from a red state who could face the primary. So I don't, I'm trying not to be judgmental, but I do think at some point, a line is crossed and people are going to have to step up.
Lincoln said in a speech to Congress in 1862 that nobody from this Congress or this administration is going to avoid history. The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation. And we can't avoid this question. I mean, this is...
This is the question of our time, and it goes to the fundamental survival of the system that has served this country well for over 200 years.
But here's one of the problems, Pablo. I have found in my experience that if people have a general common understanding of the facts, getting to the proper solution is pretty easy. If they don't share an understanding of the facts, it's practically impossible. And in our country today, we have people living in different factual universes.
If you're conservative, you watch Fox News and Newsmax, and you get on the internet to various people that reinforce your views. In fact, somebody said they had a great line the other day. People are now seeking confirmation, not information. And if you're liberal, you watch Rachel Maddow. Sure. And so people are walking around literally with different views of the facts.
I think it was Barack Obama once said, if he watched Fox News for a week, he'd hate himself. And it's very hard to resolve these problems when people have different views of the facts. For example, what is the crime problem among immigrants? Well, the data shows that immigrants actually have a lower crime rate.
Recent immigrants that are being targeted by this administration have a lower crime rate than native born Americans. That's supposedly valid data from the FBI and other law enforcement.
But if that's the case, then the premise is not correct, that this is a national emergency and we have to forget about civil rights and we have to forget about the Constitution and due process because these people are dangerous and running rampant in our communities. We've got to understand the facts before we make the policy.
I'm now in the stratosphere of gasbags, man. Come on.
Or the Dan Snyder Washington football team.
And to go back to what I've said a hundred times, it's dangerous and it's dangerous for everybody.
That's absolutely right. I was just writing something last night, and I went through this long thing about the role of the Congress, and believe it or not, my last sentence was, you know, just do our jobs.
Well, now listen, I do want to make a little news here by announcing that if they pick up an edge rusher in free agency, the Washington commanders are going to be in the Super Bowl next year.
Pablo, what a pleasure. Great to talk to you. I look forward to getting together again.
It's hard for me to believe that targets and timing and weapons would not have been classified.
If that's the case, please release that whole text stream so that the public can have a view of what actually transpired on this discussion. It's hard for me to believe that targets and timing and weapons would not have been classified.
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