This (Independent) Senator Has a Warning. Who Will Listen?

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Pablo Torre 0:00
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
Angus King 0:06
You've got to have people in your circle who are empowered to, and in fact, in my case, required to tell you when you're full of s***.
Unknown Speaker 4 0:18
Right after this ad.
Unknown Speaker 5 0:21
You're listening to DraftKings Network.
Unknown Speaker 1 0:30
Do you know this one friend who just comes out of bed in the morning and then doesn't come out of his grin? Who is even in front of the first coffee, shamelessly well-groomed and shines around the world with the morning sun? Terrible. Disgusting. How can you just be so... Restless?
Unknown Speaker 7 0:46
Very simple. Train your sleep and become a morning person. With the Galaxy Watch 7 or the Galaxy Ring and the Samsung Health app.
Angus King 1:01
How are you doing, man? You've had a long day. You've already done about 12 hours on Morning Show. Holy smoke.
Pablo Torre 1:08
Oh, Senator, you know what? The energy I have for you remains, remains at maximum capacity, just to be very clear.
Angus King 1:18
I thought politicians were supposed to be bulls**t artists.
Pablo Torre 1:21
Oh, wait a minute. Let me... I think that's, will that be, is that better? Oh, look at that. Senator, how old are you, I guess, before I pay you the compliment I want to pay you to get going here?
Angus King 1:35
I'm a year younger than Mick Jagger.
Pablo Torre 1:40
I just turned 81. 81 with all of the gyration, all of the gyration of Jagger.
Angus King 1:48
The moves, all the moves. And I went to see the Eagles at the Sphere a couple of weeks ago. I took a couple of my kids. I'm a big Eagles fan.
Pablo Torre 1:56
Oh, my God. I thought you were a Commanders fan, but now I'm going to clip that and get you in trouble.
Angus King 2:01
Not those Eagles. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let's be clear. We're talking about the Music Eagles, Hotel California, not the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, no.
Pablo Torre 2:11
You know how the media works. We're aggregating this. We're getting in trouble with everything.
Angus King 2:16
Good trouble, I hope, as John Lewis would say.
Pablo Torre 2:21
American politics is in trouble. And it's the bad kind of trouble, by the way. The kind where your timeline is just drowning in these fake sports fans and also crypto scams and this president that so many powerful people are very conspicuously afraid to even slightly criticize. And so what we here at PTFO wanted to do today was find that rarest of things in modern American politics. a genuinely independent politician, and a real sports fan, ideally, who'd be willing to take us inside the halls of power. The halls of no less than the United States Senate, to be specific, the Hotel California of American democracy, where so many senators are prisoners there, it would seem, of their own device.
Pablo Torre 3:17
But luckily, the sitting senator that we found from Maine at age 81 could relate to exactly how I feel.
Angus King 3:27
Good evening and welcome to the inaugural edition of Maine Watch. I'm Angus King. I was a PBS TV talk show host in Maine for 15 years. And Pablo, that goes to people say, well, why did you decide to run for office? And I'll bet you this has crossed your mind because it finally occurred to me after interviewing politicians for 15 years that my questions were better than their answers. I said, hell, I can do this.
Pablo Torre 3:54
And so Angus King did it. He set his sights on a brand new job, governor of Maine, and won. And yet the most striking aspect of his political perspective here for our purposes today, I would argue, is his party loyalty. Because Angus King doesn't have any. He is, very authentically, neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
Angus King 4:19
I've been an independent for 35 or 40 years from the time I ran for governor of Maine in 1994. I served eight years as an independent governor. By the way, I found it was a big advantage because I could appoint people, whoever I thought was best for the job, rather than a member of one or the other of the parties. And then I had 10 years of teaching and business and a whole bunch of other things, then sort of, somewhat to my surprise, ended up running for the U.S. Senate in 2012.
Unknown Speaker 6 4:48
And on behalf of the great state of Maine, I give you Senator-elect Angus King!
Unknown Speaker 8 4:56
Keeping the White House, we know Democrats keeping control of the U.S. Senate, Republicans keeping control of the House, but we're adding an independent to the Senate. He is Senator-elect Angus King of Maine, and he's being a tad coy today, not revealing which way his political affections may bend. Everyone in the Senate now wants to know, will King caucus with the Democrats or the Republicans?

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