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And everyone's like, Dad, what the fuck? No way.

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Did they know or were they surprised? Yeah.

And we blast it out all over.

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As a baby doll, it could be just a baby doll, but also it could be a place where you can secrete or hide drugs.

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You know what I'm saying?

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He's excited about it.

I bet.

It's going crazy right now.

You know what I'm saying?

Of course.

That's insane. Queens, maybe.

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Yes.

I tell them all.

I'm paying their rent.

This guy really cares.

For next podcast.

Yeah, yeah.

She's going to be telling everybody, I'm your shorty and I rock.

So this is, you know, three, four months after me and Kels have already worked on two or three records together. We're hanging out every day. I'm in L.A. a bunch. I don't have a friend out there. I only know him. It's like, still, you talk about when I pull up on you, Bubba, you're my only friend here. What do you mean I'm going to pull up on you? I don't know nobody.

Well, that makes me feel less special. No, no, no.

You know what I'm saying? So me and him are hanging every day and I'm like, yo, this M&M thing's real. I was like, it's fixing to come out and they want to do all this. Now we're already in there. Now on the other side, John's having to do straight business with Paul. Like, hey, Paul. You know Kells and Jelly have known each other for 15 years on and off. They were beefing. Jelly dissed them.

I was a hater back then. It's a whole other fun story. But they're buddies. And here's where Paul's a good dude, too. Paul's like, yo, man, we love Jelly, man. Appreciate you telling us. Never got brought up. Wow. My heart is always to bring them together one day because I see so much more of them in each other than they know. You know what I mean?

I hadn't really brought it up to Marshall yet because I'm just still just kind of glad that I'm still in that circumference to be able to have them conversations. But I do see like there's so much more in them than not. But like I also gave Kel some perspective, too, was like we all grew up watching Eminem. take over the game early.

If you got mentioned in an Eminem song, it was like getting mentioned in a comedy special. You were on fucking fire. You couldn't be hotter if you got mentioned in an Eminem special or an HBO special. You know what I'm saying? An Eminem song or an HBO special is what you wanted your name to be brought up.

It's the first time I've got to say it. I'm down 100. You're down 100.

Only thing I'll say to touch on this, because I'm on a slippery slope. Just nod, just nod. Is everything Andrew just said right now, I won't. the flagrant listeners to know, he said to MGK, I watch y'all have this same conversation, which I think is super cool. But here's how I feel. Look, man... They're going to get together one day eventually. It's inevitable. The world's a circle.

You know what I mean? And I think that they're going to find each other's heart more than they don't. And if they never do connect that way, I think that it did more for both of them than it did to hurt either one of them, whether either party ever fully acknowledged that. What MGK did after that, I don't think had anything to do with the beef as much as his heart and what his spirit was.

Three digits.

Because he technically dropped, I think, Hotel Diablo. was the project right after the end beef, don't quote me. But it was the two, it was the mainstream sellout and it was the tickets to my downfall that changed.

We're talking about a couple of the biggest, they'll go down as the biggest albums of this generation in pop punk and punk rock and maybe in rock and roll, like new music from new recording artists in 10 years of rock music. I think those albums will be the biggest selling. So that's the thing that like... Let that one sit.

Man, crazy, it's coming back. Me and my wife just had this conversation because I've struggled with my weight my whole life and she's seen me get really big and seen me lose weight before. So I was like, yo, am I tripping? It was a lot faster last time as far as even losing the weight and getting the dick back. So I was like, am I tripping?

You know, we were talking about this before.

Yeah, M&M's stadium for sure. M&M's stadium. But like arenas around like Drake. Hold on, let's go a step deeper. M&M's a plus one at most stadiums. So he can do two stadium shows. He's a plus one at most stadiums in America.

She came to Nashville and sold out on Wednesday. Travis. Travis. Who is Megan and Glow? Is it a Megan and Glow the package right now? Because they're doing arenas right now. Megan and Glow together are doing arenas.

Yeah. I fucking love everything.

She is so Memphis. First of all, she's the best human ever. Like, when I met her, she was, I was like, I grew up going back and forth to Memphis my whole life. Like, coming up under 3-6 Mafia, I was like... Please let her be as Memphis as it looks. Off camera, let it be as Memphis as it looks. She is so Memphis. It's like talking to Project Bat. It is awesome, dude.

It is incredible how Memphis she is. They're full-blown arenas now. Hold on, who in the backpack rap space? Say again? I hate to use that phrase, but who from that space? Suicide Boys are doing an arena tour right now. Whether you acknowledge them as rappers or not, I think they're sick as shit. I love the Suicide Boys. But I know they're doing arenas because we're on their ass every night.

They're playing Tuesdays and Thursdays like us. And they're selling almost clean everywhere they're going. Oh, that's awesome.

When they did the West Coast package, I remember they did whatever they labeled the West Coast package. It had Cube.

And she's like, listen, my wife is the most honest human on earth. She goes, daddy, you're a little older now. We might have to just get that thing cut off. Because I'm like a kangaroo with a pouch above my pecker. You know what I'm saying? The pouch goes back, the pecker comes out. So I found myself in this juxtaposition where I'm losing the weight here, but the pouch is still pouching.

That guy's fucking massive. Fred again was on our new artist Grammy list this year. That's how I kind of got hip to him. And I was joking with Noah about it. We were joking about who all we were. Me, Noah, and I think Gracie Abrams were all talking at the table. And I said, the funny part of this is, I don't even think Fred again came to the Grammys, by the way. I'm not sure.

I don't think he even showed up. But if he did, I didn't get to meet him. And he's going to make more money than all of us put together when it's all said and done. He's doing crazy.

He's still looking outside the box, man. I wonder who he's doing all that production for. Well, that—

But can you break down what you're thinking when you're creating the set? Yeah. Every, of course, every show is different. Every tour, just kind of like you with the life. But for me, this particular tour, I was like, I wanted to make a real statement at the beginning of the show.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I got to look exactly. Oh, that's fire. No, it's not fire. No, that's fire, dude.

Like, it was important to me not to, like, because, like, the trick is either you come out to, like, an up-tempo hit that people know, and then you kind of play into the crowd, and then you kind of bring them into the couple songs they don't know, and the set slowly ramps up and slowly ramps up, and the last four songs are the biggest four songs. This is like rock and roll one-on-one.

And I was like, so I've always tried to stay away from that model, like not to like give away too much of what I do, but like immediately I'm like, fuck that model sucks. You know what I'm saying? Like fucking, even from my perspective.

So I was like. What if we come out and the first thing we do, I blow one of the biggest gags I have. I mean, I walk straight into the arena and all eyes on this thing that happens, right? And I drop, I'm not okay, out the gate. You know what I mean? So it's the fucking first thing I'm doing. I mean, I'm walking right in and, like, fucking balls on table. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm doing an effect, right? I'm doing an extra thing that happens. It's like even if I look right now and tell you, you know what song I'm going to do first. And it's still going to have a moment in the song where you're going to go, get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying? And I also did that because I wanted people to go, where can you go from here?

That was intentional, too, because I knew once I put us in a box— Where whenever me and my team were talking, they're like, all right, this is this idea. And I was like, this is what I want to do with this. They're like, cool. I was like, that's how I want to start the show. And right then you can see them go, fuck, well, how are we going to finish it?

I was like, that's how we challenge ourselves. That's how we got to work through it. We know where we're starting. And then I build the whole set like an emotional. To me, it's about... Music, the best concerts that meant the most to me were the ones I remember leaving how they made me feel.

Like I don't even remember the set list. I don't fully remember what songs they sung. I remember some highlights. Yeah. But I'll remember like the overarching theme of like how I left feeling. Amen. And I want people to leave this like feeling like free. I don't know if I've talked to a bunch of people from up here, but don't take this wrong, but I always bring it up. That old church feeling.

There's something about leaving church on Sunday. There's this misconception that you leave feeling like you're going to hell. But if done right, you feel like that at some point in the day. You leave feeling like... I'm fucking a good guy.

I'm going to eat lunch with my mom now. Like, I'm on fire. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's how I want people to leave that show feeling. And I try to cater the entire set to go into that moment. Because if I know that's my end game, then I just got to figure out how to get there. I know how I'm starting. I know how I want people to feel walking out the door.

How do I push them out the door?

No, I feel good though, man. I'm losing weight. I was telling you, that's why we quit talking about it. I'm hitting that moment where you start to hit a stride in it. Okay. In weight loss or just in life? In everything. Like just the clarity, the clarity is coming with the weight loss, the music, the writing, the tour, the production. But even down to like my discipline of like...

I will tell you a story about Saturday Night Live that I don't know. I'm sure everybody else knew this but me, but I didn't realize that the dress rehearsal was for an audience. I don't know why I would have missed that. I guess just when you watch it, I'm not enough behind the curtains to know that side of the business. So they can use that if they need.

Yeah, I didn't know that was an option either. Because they ended up running the skit that we did in rehearsal that didn't make the actual cuts. They still ran it on YouTube. They just didn't run it on TV because I was in the skit. They just put it on YouTube. But I didn't know that. So I was like, oh, this is like crazy. And that scared me because I... nailed dress rehearsal.

And you walk off and you're like... And I'm walking off and I nailed it so much that they're clapping for me in the hallways. And I'm like... Don't jinx me right now. I'm like almost feeling weird about it. Like, don't praise me, y'all. This is fucking, that didn't count. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't get to replace this one with that one. It's not enough time.

That's not how live, live TV works. I don't get to come off and go, I like the first one better. That is a choice on some live TV shows, but you know what I'm saying? But it's like, this isn't one of those. This is like, all right, well, that was practice. The next one's for real. For 7 million people tuned into the 50th season fucking opener, you're like, I'm going to go out there and blow it.

And then I spent two hours just thinking about how I was going to fuck it up. There's no way I'm going to go out here and get this right, that right.

I don't want to say I've overcome it, but, dude, I haven't ate anything. It's been so long, I don't even think about it. Really? I just thought about this the other day, that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I would walk into rooms and make assessments of what was in there that I could snack on. You're like Jason Bourne. Literally. Super fat shit.

Yeah, I'm just in the green roominating in it, by the way.

It was the same introduction, same people. Now I know it's live. So I'm sitting there thinking I should have pissed. That's the first thing you're thinking. You're like, I should have peed. And you're like, I can hold this for three or four. You ever do, do y'all have pre-show pisses? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that like one of those where like literally the host is going up to introduce you and you're like, man, I gotta piss.

I'm not embarrassed, I'm not ashamed to admit I had to piss in my first bucket on this tour.

I have moments in the set built where I can kind of get away and figure things out if I have to. I built three moments into the set for me to breathe if nothing else. If something's going wrong with an ear pack, it's a big show. I've got to figure shit out sometimes. It was just one of them fucking figure it out moments.

Right before I walked out, I looked at my guy, Yanni, who's my guy in that particular situation, and I go, Bubba, I didn't pee. He goes, oh, he knew it. He knows I pee before every show. He said, oh, no. I say, I got an IV, Bubba. I'm going to have to pee. He's like, I'll have a bucket for you under the thing. So I went under the stage and fucking 16,000 people cheering.

Some guy's doing an electric guitar solo. You're like, this feels weird. You're like, but you got to pee so bad you don't have a choice.

You did that one.

No, I seen you look frantic when you got up there.

Because it was the last 12 minutes of the show. We were sitting in front of the house smoking a joint. I was like, he made it.

I'd be like, yo, there's a can of Snickers. I got a little bowl here. You know how to be having the cans with the little baby Snickers. I'm in the dressing room the other day and there was a, I don't, I didn't even notice the candy in the dressing room until somebody said, do you want one of these? And then I was like,

Like pulling whatever shirt that I had down over it. You were wearing denim or something light too. It was light. It was light. Oh, yeah, yeah. Y'all brave with them light-colored spans. I got too much of a dribble, too, man. Oh, I'm straight dribbled. The difference between me and you is at least when you shake, it's just a shake. I got to do a little bit of hopscotching.

What was the game with Twister?

No, no, no. I'm interested. No, no, no.

No, that's what you tell kids so they don't pee in the pool. Well, maybe it's a fake video.

I try not to piss in other people's pools. I try not to piss in other people's pools. That's a policy I try to hold to.

No, I think it's more for like, you know, if water just sits stale like that and it don't get nothing, no chemical in it, the water will start watering. I'm just telling you, man, I've been around a pond or two. The only thing that keeps the pool from being a pond is chlorine.

Here comes the helicopter.

I'm on another ounce and a half out there.

just i'm not even thinking like that no more like it's just not going i remember when i caught that with drugs yeah like the first time that i found myself in an environment where people were doing cocaine and i wasn't like gotta get out of the room you know what i mean i was just like oh yeah i used to do that that was all right you know what i mean like we have you have you struggle with drugs like you said my family we have a lot of addiction but like i noticed my dad no that that's pleasure yeah

I don't got the drip. My problem is my piss is in spurts. I know when I think I'm done, I got another one coming. I just got to be patient. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I just got to stand there for another second and be like, there's a whole other one of these on the way. I just got to sit here and relax.

Like when you hold the hose closed. Yeah, for sure. Exactly.

You shit on the tour bus? No, no. I got to shit in a bag instead. What?

It was one of those. Have you shit on stage? Well, first of all, my wife's going to hate this podcast. I have no shit shame, and she shames me for it all the time. Good.

I don't have it. But we were playing Pittsburgh at a bar that was connected to a bowling alley. Nice. So there was like this was the bar. This was back in the day, yeah. Yeah, this is eight years ago, seven years ago. Maybe six years ago even. Yeah. And it's like a 500 capper, right? Our green room is through the crowd. It's one of those things. And our green room didn't have a bathroom.

I hate that. So you would have to go into the bowling alley. What the fuck, dude? But the way the backstage was set up behind the stage was like an outdoor fenced-in area that you could sit at a picnic table. You see where this story's going? Yeah. I'm on stage. I like this. Listen, man, I can't believe I've done this on this podcast. And I feel it rumbling. I'm like, it's finna happen.

I hit the drummer and I'm like, yo, I just need y'all to vamp. Just like, you know, everybody gets a solo. We don't even get ears, so you don't have a microphone to talk back. Like, now we can go talk. We have full conversations on that stage because we can hit one microphone that just us can hear. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, it's crazy fire. So it's like that wasn't an option.

So I'm having to like go to my guy like play. I'm fixing this shit. And I walk straight out the back door where that little back patio was drop my draws. My wife standing right there going, what are you doing? We've been married maybe a year. And I had, this is like prime drunk jelly roll, drinking codeine, cocaine. Like my shit was, it was just water almost, just soft serve water.

And I'm just, I could not stop. They played for me. Was it coming down your thighs? It's worse when fat people talk about it, right? I'm sorry. I'm imagining what's coming down your thigh.

No, I'm doing a little hover thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing the best squat I can do for the size I want. I'm pressed up against the fence probably. I've had this shit. I'm from the country. You're like a bear. You know what I'm saying? I've never... Sitting on the side of the road is not a new concept to me, sadly.

So I'm experienced in that moment? Yeah. Nothing. Goddamn, Jelly!

Get it all out. I've been in the country. I've had a white with leaves before.

The smoothest leave out there is going to butcher that butthole. I like that. You guys are country.

The first time I went to my uncle's farm, my cousin shit and wiped with poison ivy. Oh, no. Poison oak. It was poison oak. It just looks like a regular oak leaf.

It was poison oak.

Oh, he flamed his ass up. What are you talking about? It was all bad, man. It was so bad. Have you ever had poison ivy?

Imagine that all the way from bottom of nut sack to tip of tailbone. Oh, no. Yikes. Horrible experience.

If you touch poison ivy or poison oak, you can't piss. Touch your dick after that. Watch, bub. That stuff is, it's like chicken pox. It goes with everything it touches.

Touch your dick after poison ivy.

Immediately. That's how his wife got it. Literally, if I touch a poison ivy right now and I...

You have a bidet? I live by a bidet. Ernest and them sent me a bunch of bidets during COVID. We don't need one. So my wife bought me a bidet commode because I like the attachment so much. With what? Oh, with the wireless situation. No, no, no. She bought the one from Whenever they make them at. They got the full ass toilets. They got like a dryer. It's crazy. The whole toilet is one.

Yes, the whole toilet is one. I can control the temperature. That's the underrated thing. Heated toilet seat when you go on. That's sick. Relax that. We've been talking about this.

I could juggle fucking chainsaws with that skill set. But I found myself, I don't know, man. I think it's for me is I'm just starting to do the real work on me. And I'm starting to really start to, you know, come to peace and find myself in situations. What does that entail, the work on you?

Did America invent the port-a-potty? I feel like that's something we would have.

That's a great idea. It makes me wonder how they were shitting in festivals before that. Oh, like Woodstock? Woodstock was in the 60s, though.

But yeah, that was a problem with Woodstock down the way. Man, you look like a fucking idiot right there. They didn't have enough.

No, well, they didn't have enough. The problem was, you know the story about Woodstock, right? Y'all know this? No. I'm going to butcher it, and y'all correct me, but at least in the spirit of me trying to get it right, is they anticipated, based on ticket sales...

this to be a flop they they staffed it for like 4 000 people so what happened was because it was so loose they didn't even put fences up or try to gate it or nothing they were just like look it's just kind of at this point it's integrity we sold 4 000 tickets anybody who wants to show up can come but back then it wasn't like you could post that on fucking tiktok you know what i mean so they thought you know maybe our neighbors will come maybe you know the community will come together they were expecting like five seven thousand people at most

When a half a million motherfuckers and the word started getting out, fucking Jimi Hendrix, all this crazy shit's happening and it's free. They don't have offense. It's like, it's a third, you know, right? So it immediately just like the whole, this part of America, right into it as well. So yeah, no, there was shit everywhere. When you watch the documentary, it's super bad.

The other problem was they didn't know how to feed people. And there were so many people backed up on the interstate highways. That's why there was only one Woodstock. It was a logistical nightmare. The other side of the beauty of what we see is they thought people were going to die. It was really bad. The locals came in and started cooking big bowls of chicken and rice just to mass feed people.

They wasn't ready to feed that many. That area of New York wasn't ready for a half a million motherfuckers.

I think I'd probably pass. I think I'd probably pass. I don't know, man. I'm all about second chances and redemption, too, though. I would hear him out. I would give him an audience. You know what I mean? Like, yo, what did you really learn? Make sure he comes thirsty. Did you not come out... Like, the problem is with prison is...

People either come out and really want to change their life or they come out smarter criminals. And that's the truth. And I'm all about second chances. So, yeah, I'd hear them out. But my gut reaction is fucking no. Not into that at all. You know what I mean? But I'm also just not into being on a plane that long. It just doesn't sound like my crowd.

I don't look like what, based on what he tried to book.

you're headlining this is stagecoach yeah this is the big one yeah huge huge yeah it's our coachella um i know y'all work ridiculous and asking y'all to do something other than i want to go to that stagecoach would be awesome so it's you who else it's going to be so luke combs or zach bryan's but luke combs is friday night yeah i headline saturday night and zach bryan headline sunday night wow it's going to be 75 000 it's going to be i mean it's going to be

As cliche as it sounds, I've done like a lot of like therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume. You know, I didn't realize that Not just what I was consuming was making me huge and making me feel bad and inflamed, but what I was listening to, the kind of stuff, the rabbit holes I found myself going in. Like what? You know, just like darker shit. Comedy podcasts?

Insane.

First two weeks.

I'll be there. Fire. T-Pain is fire, dude. Don't accidentally look over Nelly doing 25 years of country grandma. Lana Del Rey. Sammy Hagar. Sturgill. Sammy Hagar's the man. Oh, Sturgill's gonna be awesome. Sturgill's my night.

This is down to me celebrating.

Shabuzy's my night, Ko Wetzel.

Flatland Cavalry. This is awesome.

It's great. We'll put the headphones on and people bring babies all the time. It's great. The weather was great when we were out there.

And also, especially on my night, I have the whole compound. So it's whatever. I'll give you your own. You'll have your own room. Don't worry about that. We'll take care of you. Yeah. Okay, that'll be fun. We'll roll out the red carpet. It'll be fun. This is a big deal for us. One thing y'all know about me is I'm like y'all.

This is how we became friends, is that we treat every moment that is a moment like it's a moment. So y'all know what the fuck I'm fixing to do. It should say jelly rolling friends, because I am fucking, I got big tricks up my sleeve. I got big tricks up my sleeve I'll talk about. I've already got one commitment. This one commitment is the only one that comes through

It's going to be the most legendary thing that ever happened to stagecoach. Really? And I get two more calls out for even crazier looks.

Wow. Equivalent with what they should. I was just going to say, you should bring up. Yeah, that's the weekend at Coachella.

It's learning, really, when you get down to it. I've been a parent a little bit for a little while now, and I can tell you one of the most pieces of parent advice I can give my two young fathers here. especially for you and your wife, which I've met both of your wives and I think they're both sweet people, it's important for y'all to find time to not be parents.

I can laugh about this. This would like, you find yourself in just like, you know, dark holes of just what you even listen to or intake or. Yeah. And then your timeline becomes full of it.

And I know you're early in the process, so that sounds unreal at this moment. But it is important that y'all go to Burning Man and completely fucking lose your mind and forget the kids. That is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. Because a little night out with some wine or a weekend away at a hotel, a staycation, that's not enough.

You need every now and then to go out and be like, we're fucking college kids again. We're fucking going to get naked and swing from chandeliers. We're going to get kicked out of a fucking hotel. Like, it's important every now and then. All parents out there listening, trust the fat man with this one, y'all. I swear. It is a backbone of something me and Bunny have stood by.

It's like, it is important to every now and then. Because even you'll go out and do stuff. And we're parents 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.

Dude, that's a problem with the algorithm. Yeah, it's the Wild West, dude. You accidentally stumble on one dude getting his head blown off in Venezuela. And for three days, you're like, I can't touch my phone. It's nuts, man. You know what I mean? It's wild. And those paths for me wasn't always internet rabbit holes. These are the self ones that I struggle with. You know what I mean?

It's a whole extra prioritization, too.

Initially, it's like I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work and these other ideas I have and ambitions and dreams and hobbies with my wife. Now I'm juggling. And then it's easy to lump them together. Oh, it's my wife and kid. And I had to learn fast. Like, it's not. It ain't that. That is one thing. But me and my wife are a separate thing.

And this is where it gets deeper when they get older. And me and my kid are a separate thing, too. Because then you'll fall guilty sometimes. Be like, oh, I've got it. Great. I got the wife and kid. And then I got the wife. It's like, well, no, you still got to go sit down and be just a dad.

And you need that just her time, too. You need that just her time. It's important for growth. And me, sneaking away, getting them dinners, going on those things. They're important. Equally important. Once a year, go blow it out.

Be fucking irresponsible. I stand by it, dude. It's been, it's been such an important thing for me.

I need that right now. Bunny quit drinking many years ago and everything I gave up, I'll still go out and tie one on every now and then. And I've cut it back immensely, but that's what Bunny does understand is that when I do have that wager in me, Bunny is, I love her for this because my wife stands, she'll call it early. She'll be like, you might just need to find a night to go out.

Like she'll start kind of pushing me like, When have you done something, you know, go do something. So like, even like the other night when we're sitting around, it's my first night off in probably 17, 18 days. And she was like, you should go rest. I was like, Solstice at the comedy club. I get to catch him at the cellar. And while we're here, I want to book, I don't want to bookmark it.

I want you to let me get through this. When I seen you at the life tour. I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's going to be one of the greatest hours of standup we're ever going to witness. Oh, God bless. It is his best hour.

No, no, no. It's not about being your best. Yeah. Thank you. It is going to be one of the best hours ever. And I had a moment when you were at the cellar, cause this is why I want to come see you too. I had a moment at the cellar. I was like, I seen it at Nashville comedy fest in April. Yeah. The way y'all's business work is different than mine. It's only gotten better.

When I just get alone in these little rabbit holes and I'm doing better at those now, man. I'm just thinking better, dude.

It couldn't have gotten worse. The way y'all's business is, you've only found, I've seen you working out little shit. I'm like, oh, he's still picking this thing fucking apart. And I've seen it fucking, you know what I mean? You can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name caught me off guard. Oh, yeah.

I had flash shots of when you announced the life tour and it's this silhouette of you. I have these flash shots of you in this 1964 Impala doing, you know, at your first big L.A.

Right. I'm looking at like these Schultz moments and I'm like, oh, I bet this is going to be, you know, I remember the plane Schultz. And like, I just remember these eras of like, I wonder what this is going to be. So I went in expecting more of that. And was like, get the fuck out of here. I was like, this dude's a fucking, this is brilliant.

You're going to show so many people so much more than motherfuckers know you're that. They know you're him, but they still underestimate you.

That's why I say it's his best hour. Given everything he's done for this to still be his best hour.

They're going to goat head you on this one, dog. Thank you, man. Fucking special. So anyways, I tell my wife, I'm like, yo, she also said to sell her. And she's like, oh, fucking go. She immediately was like, because she knows I need that.

want to be with someone else yeah exactly there's something else cooking uh you're right yeah and we both do it and then instead of saying hey i'm hurt we get upset at them or try to catch them and things because it's way easier to be like you're wrong than say i feel insecure so it's that's i like commend her for that that's a very mature position i'm telling you and i was gonna go hang out with her and she was like she was like no go man bunny's just that's just where she's at she's always encouraged but she knows my heart too she knows like this dude's been fucking

Because when I get to get in those situations, I don't have to be the dude. I just get to be with the dudes. You know what I'm saying? She knows how much I need that.

And then my connection always with y'all, too, is that watching that we were all in clubs together and have built this thing in like a parallel path. So it's like now we're just sitting being homies. We're dudes, and now we're giving inside trader secrets, right? Now it's like, yo, what's this? What's that? What's the deal on this? What's the deal on that? You know what I mean? Yeah.

And you getting with Kells that night was special for me because I, And I had multiple conversations with him where I was like, I have so many people that if they knew you were this charming, would feel so differently about you. I was like, could you just humor me and just go show people this? And I love him so much because he was so open to it. And it was so innocent because he was like, how?

And I was like, man, because, you know, he had come up such a rock star way. It had been semi-traditional media. Yeah. So he had never like.

You can't come in here and fake it for two and a half hours. Two hours is a long time. I tell my people in Nashville that all the time. You can't go sit on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours and Joe not get you to tell people who the fuck you are. Exactly.

It's just inevitable. You can't shoot wherever I go do... 12-minute clip for this particular show, it's pretty easy to kind of, you know, okay, we don't really got to really dig up into the weeds here. And a lot of artists avoid this because they know that it can only do us wrong. This is only risky for most artists.

There's going to be shit stories. There's going to be fucking funny headlines.

It's a great platform. That's what I tell them. I'm like, yo, pub, just like, go. I was like, and go somewhere you're interested in because you dig what they do or somewhere you feel safe. Yeah. And then immediately he's like, you're friends with Flagrant. I was like, those are my boys.

And he was like, I got to get with them. I was like, I'm going to tell you how that works. Yeah. You're going to have to meet them. Because they're dudes.

He's fucking hilarious.

There's a bucket in the corner.

That's something else that we're judging, GK, because I think about this all the time for him. I thank God I didn't burst on the scene at 25. Yeah. Because like the way I thought at 25 and would have projected myself into critical mass. Yeah. You know what I mean? It would have not favored me for sure.

And I was like, oh, that was kind of cool. Yeah. He's so—man, every conversation I've ever had with him, he's so—even down to, like, this. I joked with you that night, and I'm like, I'm his publicist right now. That's how I feel.

I'm out here showing the world, like, this dude is so much— Even when we got back to circle back to the him and him thing, it's like, that's why I see so much of them in each other. I just think that he was so young during all of that, too. You know what I mean? Like, even what he did to initially make him mad into the battle era of like, you know, man, that dude's got a...

We're watching this new video with him, and I'm getting choked up watching his daughter get married and announce a child. But equally, I'm just with MGK at MGK Day in Cleveland, and he's got a 16-year-old that's already taking college classes. Crazy, right? Genius kid. He's like... This dude flies every weekend from L.A. to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like, every weekend.

I'm like, if people knew that about you, besides this picture of you wearing this fucking wild outfit, you know what I'm saying? Like, it would be such a... I know how fast it made my shift of you. You know what I mean? Whenever I'm talking to you and I'm seeing the consistency, I'm like, where you at? He's like, on my way to Cleveland. I'm like, damn, is he volleyball again this weekend?

This French motherfucker's making billions. We're 16 minutes in and I'm like, I fucked up.

He's like, every weekend, dog, for 28. He quit touring. He took a year off of touring. Yeah. Tens of millions of dollars. Like, ah, man, it's going to be like one of the last years I can watch her play.

Like, that's the kind of duty, is it? Like, where his spirit's at right this particular moment.

I know his mother's like a Viking or something like that. That's why he got all the blacks. I swear, man, like super. It's a crazy story. That's why he got all that blackout shit tattooed on him. He told me one night the full story, but I was really high.

So I don't want to butcher that story completely.

We came out of a burlesque bar at 8 o'clock in the morning with Post and MGK. Wow. Literally, the box or something like that. Oh, yeah. Super awesome. Of course. Dude, listen, y'all. I'm from Antioch, Tennessee, dude. I played on Saturday Night Live. Yeah.

fucking absurd that is like when you really start rapping like if you i tell people they know that i'm a criminal by my history and i talk about it openly but if you just like seen it on a sheet of paper and then said that guy played on saturday night live people like get the fuck out of

Yeah, for sure. That was just a few years ago, too, man. That was just me going to radio and just trying to be like, yo, man, this is my record. I just would be honored if y'all take a chance to hear it. I was just like telling my story, you know what I mean? But even the early, dude, we played bars for... When you see my show and double the test for this, it reeks of a man who's done a thousand.

You know what I mean? Like, does that make sense? I kind of, I jumped with Schultz when I was like, have you ever had a shit on stage? But I knew that he's done enough shows that there was a story there. There's no way you've stood on that many stages and the bubble guts haven't hit you to the point of being like, I got to get the fuck off of here.

The TikTok era, ooh, man, this is good, Schultz, has done this so much because these kids will blow up and be able to sell 2,000 tickets but have never done a single show in their life.

Also about them getting honest booking agents. I'm watching this Aaron Hernandez thing on FX right now. And it was so interesting when he's meeting with his agents. Have y'all seen it yet? I've heard it's pretty bad, to be honest with you. They say that about all the FX shows like that. But I'm so into the story, I would watch... of whatever happened to that story.

I've watched everything you can about it. But it was interesting. I'd never seen the side of him meeting with the agents. And whether it's true or not, it reminded me of the TikTok era because all these agents are coming in and they're like, you're a first round draft pick. You're a superstar. And then one agent comes in and goes, You're going to be lucky if we get you picked in the third.

Oh, wow. And he's like, I've already picked my guy. Get out of here. He said, I will. But if they told you what's happening at the combine, and he just kind of starts leaning in like, they didn't tell you you've got to answer questions for three hours, did they? They didn't tell you that all 52 teams get to ask you questions for three hours apiece? Did they tell you this?

And he's going, he said, yeah, that's because I'm other agents are lying to you. Call you when you call me when you realize what's really going on. So he ends up picking that guy, though. But it's like that's happening in the tick tock world because some agents going in with their mom and dad. Sometimes he's tick tockers. Right.

And this agent's going, I can get y'all making twenty thousand dollars a show right now. We're going to go right into theaters. We're going to do it. And then they go meet another another booking agent who's the right guy who goes, look. I think we need to go play this like 300 cap room circuit. Let's go do like 40 of these.

You know, the best part is it was such a Schultz moment. I often forget, you and Tony are my two friends that I forget about this until I'm out with y'all. Oh yeah, I know where you're going. That y'all are knife of men. You know what I'm saying? You're just like a knife of a man. I think I know what you mean. My dude is quietly observing.

Just get her familiar with standing on stages and looking at people in the eye. We'll put her in theaters in the spring, slowly next spring. We'll ramp her up and we'll put her on an amphitheater tour in three years with somebody. And they're like, fuck you. And they go to the agent to put them in front of 2000 people and they go out and fucking blow it. It sucks.

And everybody reviews it on the Internet and all their TikTok fans review it. Start arguing with each other about how bad the show is. I see it happen in my business all the time.

You know what I mean? And the ones who do it right are the ones who go out of Jesse Murph, the one I did Wild Ones with.

Example of doing it right. She could have came out the gate selling thousands of tickets. Man, they sent that girl over to Australia. They sent her to the UK to do clubs. I think, I mean, they had her going and doing abroad shows before she was doing big domestic shows. Like, let her go figure it out.

And that also shows how smart she was. She was in no rush. She was just like, yeah, I know what I love about Jessie is, she's like my little sister, she's so confident in what she does. She's like, I'm here. I just needed somebody to see I could do this. I'm going to do this forever. That's how she thinks. So she wasn't in no rush. You know what I mean? She really cut her teeth.

And even then, just when she comes out with me at MSG, after that night, I tell my wife, I'm like, is that not a different person from even just who came out with me at Jingle Ball MSG last year? She was like a completely different person. I was like just watching her. She'll be in arenas probably next year if I had to guess. Wow.

Busta Bust.

That was MSG. Yeah, MSG. Busta Bust came out.

And he can perform his ass off, dude. Listen, man. I have a rule that I don't watch a performer without stealing something. Okay. That's my personal rule. The good ones borrow, the great ones steal. That's my rule. If I come see you, stole something from you the other night, it's what I do. I'm coming, I'm watching, I'm stealing. I love it.

And Buss was on my stage for four minutes and I stole something. That's how good he was.

Four minutes. What'd he do? Four minutes. His opening was so old school hip hop. It was like, so I set it up. There's this really, my show is really, I'm telling a story. But I'm telling two stories, right? But they're the same story in the end, the story of music, the story of the therapy of music and how we all grew up listening to different kind of music.

He's maybe interjected once or twice, but just enough results to go... So how do you fit into this?

And I do this by like playing my music and then I'll throw covers in there to show the crowd like, oh, you don't think you know country music, but... And then I have a trick where I'm like, you don't think you listen to hip hop, but I do it in the form of a story, which I'll tell you off camera because I want you to punch it up. But I set it up and I set the story up.

You heard me set the story up. And I'm like, yeah, and I grew up listening. I'm in New York, so I'm playing to it. I'm like, I grew up listening to 50 Cent, which I did. I grew up listening to Jay-Z. I grew up listening to Big L. I grew up listening to shit like... And then Bus comes out, right? And it comes out, and it's like one of them hip-hop like... Hold up! Turn the music up! Jelly roll!

And every time the beat would break, he would just scream something else. Left side out! Right side out! And him and Spliff. And I'm watching them, dude. I'm standing behind them having... I got them on my legs now. Deuce moment. And I'm like, that's why this dude is one of the greatest performers in hip-hop history. What song did he come out to? Fuck, I don't remember the first record.

It went in to break your neck. Don't this hit make my people wanna... What's up? He did like a three-minute. It was so hard to keep. He did a three-minute medley.

He did a four-minute medley, and I think I heard a piece of every one of his hits. It was crazy. He even put in the past the Cavasier, but just the musical part as an interlude into another big hit. Oh, that's funny. So it didn't even come in. It was just that Darryl. Darryl. Darryl. Don't this hit make my people want to? And it was just so, and I was just like. Man, what a way.

That's a great question.

That's a good one. I don't think nobody that I didn't see coming as far as... Everybody I'd already kind of built a relationship with. So nobody kind of surprised me. But I'm still surprised anytime anybody comes to my show. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still like, oh, y'all know I do this.

But I think anytime an athlete comes out, it's always a little different for us because there's a lot of synergy with me and y'all, a lot of synergy with like anything on this side of art. Yeah. But I don't have as much synergy on that side. You know what I mean? So I still get excited every time Jimmy Butler posts one of my songs.

like the kid is just like it's fucking crazy mostly like once a month yeah you know what i mean it still doesn't get any less exciting yeah you know that kind of stuff so like a couple of actors that are starting to kind of come around to what i do has been cool oh that's awesome but it's been it's been pretty cool i think even like bus agreeing to come sing with me was really really special uh

Yeah, we did our song, and then we did a country song, and then we did one of his. I love Post, man.

I'll put you on the text tonight.

I've got to talk about being a Cowboy fan. That's the easiest connection I'll ever make. People in Nashville go, Jelly Roll's one of the nicest guys ever. Until they meet Post Malone. Post Malone is dead sweet.

It's just his fucking personality, dude. That dude is fucking... He is like... He don't care is what makes him special. Like we're backstage and I still play like it's a bar. I know it's an arena. But man, me and Post didn't talk about what we were doing until 20 minutes before the show. We didn't have one conversation about it. And I'm like, yo, what about like, let's do this cover.

He's a philanthropy guy? Yeah, that was the worst way to frame him. His name is Miles Adcox. Yeah. Yeah, he does look a lot like him in that one picture. But he actually does a lot in the mental health space. He owns a big company called On-Site in Tennessee. There's one in San Diego. It's like a mental wellness retreat. It's done a lot for me, a lot for me and my wife.

He's like, oh, I was like, first thing I say when I see him in the hallway, I'm like, you cool with just fucking around? He's like, yeah. I was like, I'll see you later then. Right then I knew it wasn't nothing to worry about. I was like, I'll just go talk to this dude later. And I went, I was just like, yo, let's just go fuck around. Let's do this cover and do this.

And I was like, if I end up wanting to keep you out for this record, will you stay? He was like, yeah, I'll stay. And sure enough, I was like, fuck, we got to do this record. It's the second biggest song in the world right now. Him and, that I had some help with him and Morgan. I was like, I can't have you at this show and have the second biggest song in the world right now. We don't do it.

You know what I mean? He's like, you'll do Morgan's part. I was like, hell no. I was like, I'll butcher it. I'll do the hook and bridge. He's like, all right, cool.

Man, this is a slippery slope, too. And I'll hang here with you because I'm willing to with my friends. I think that the body of art was incredible. There's no denying that, like, I always take all politics out of it before we even talk about those. What did the art actually say? Was it good? Right? And the record was good. I don't know if it was Beyonce's best record. You know what I mean?

It didn't make me feel the way even Renaissance made me feel as a full body of work. But there was two or three songs on there that I thought could be country song of the year for sure. What she did with Jolene Alone to me could have been, was just unbelievable. You know, and how much Dolly loved it. To me, that's the real tale, right? If Dolly loves it, it's a big deal.

So my argument starts with the art. My argument is, yeah, I think she should be nominated because the art was worthy of being nominated. The flip side of the argument, and this isn't my argument, so I don't want to get crucified or nailed to this cross, is that Nashville is a small community that is trying to keep country music as a boundaryless genre.

And I know boundaryless seems like, well, that's the opposite of not putting... Beyonce in it, but meaning like they never allowed country to get put in sub genres like rock did. So like they've kind of like country is one of the last genres left that you could just say there's a country music concert happening and a certain group of people will still just show up. You know what I mean?

Like it don't really matter. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, You can say there's a pop concert happening and somebody's going, who's going to be there?

They can say, hey, man, there's a country concert happening down the street. And people will kind of just blindly go based on the consistency of country music. That's being ran by the town of Nashville, my city, where I'm from. But this is being ran from the industry. It's like how, you know, like all the record labels are in New York for hip hop. All of them are for pop in L.A.

or, you know, how it used to be, whatever. Now it's kind of everywhere. But. These people looked at it, the people who are the 20,000 registered, 30,000 registered voters, like the Grammys only has that many voters or 60,000 or something, 100,000, whatever it is, right? These people that are in that, look, they are only really hip to what's happening in Nashville. Hmm. Right.

So it's not as malicious as one thinks. It's not like in my mind, from what I know of these people, the few I don't know, all 16,000 voters, neither. Right. Or I'd fucking win more. But it's like the ones I know are just more like I just they just missed it because to them it was more of like, you know, it was a big tick tock moment. The Texas Hold'em song, you know, we're like in country music.

There's you know, we have there's there's. three award shows bare minimum for really now a year that really mattered like to us as a community, like the ACMs, which is the Academy of country musics, the CMAs, which is the biggest night of country music. This is the one that's coming up. It's the country music association. I won the best new artist last year. That was the speech.

That was that speech. That is the one though. That's like, that's a really big deal. I'm nominated for entertainer of the year this year. This is a huge, huge honor. And yeah, For some of these people, I think they just didn't see the visibility of the album. Not that the album wasn't huge and it wasn't impactful or a great piece of art. They just didn't see the visibility of it.

She didn't tour it. It wasn't like Morgan Wallen is like out here selling out three stadiums a night like Beyonce did for Renaissance. Now, had the same campaign happened for Renaissance that happened with this album, I would have stood up and been like, this is wrong. Hmm. You know what I mean?

But like to them, it was more of like an, and this is, I'm not, I can't speak for all 16,000 and this isn't how I feel. Just what I've heard is like to them, it just felt like an eclectic art piece to try to broaden the horizons of the space. And they felt like that a nod that's even bigger.

Some people in this town feel like what's even bigger than giving her a nod was that Shabuzy broke by being on her album and he's up for best new artist of the year and looking like a winner.

And he's having a huge year at country radio and a huge year at all the country award shows. And like he's in Nashville in the community writing. But he's embedded in the culture. Yeah, he loves the culture of Nashville.

And I'm not saying I don't think that makes it right that she wasn't nominated.

So you have to think who's coming from the outside. Yeah, I wasn't upset when I lost at the Grammys this year because I knew that to the Grammy audience, I was new.

A lot of these people didn't know I was a human to see me on the bill.

And then they could see me at the best new artists like performance. And then they see me in the building and they felt my spirit. And now I feel like next year I might have a better. I feel like every year I'm building a better chance towards it.

I've said this a minute then. I was on record early about this. I'm glad it stood the test of time. I, of course, obviously, and there's going to be country music fans that are going to be like, you wasn't welcome here. But it's like, I was so glad she was here. I welcomed her with open arms. I think it's great for country. Same thing I felt about Post.

It's great for country. Do you know how hard it was to get people to, especially in the world of music, people would just fly right over Nashville to Memphis. Just didn't even think about it. Whether it was hip hop, blues, soul, anything. Memphis had all the culture. I mean, Nashville just frog jumped over. Anything that was like country music in itself, country culture.

Like what Beyonce did for fucking cowboy hat sales is unheard of. No, no. Listen, man, it's a true story. I went to the there's a right there on Sunset. I wish I could remember his name. My boy Miles was with me that night. He's a cowboy for real. He rides horses. My dude that you thought looked like the crud guy.

He went to this shop and it's like an old school famous spot on Sunset that sells leather belts, leather hats. It's like an old cowboy store right there on Sunset. And he went in there and the guy says, he's known the guy forever. The guy's been in the store 20, 30 years or something. He goes, how's business? He goes, better than ever. He goes, really? What's happening? He said, two things.

Morgan Wallen and Beyonce. That's a lot. Literally, that's exactly like, and this is an old man's perspective who probably, you know, doesn't know what's going on in the world. He just knows that a lot more motherfuckers showed up to this store in the last 12 months.

And I think she should have been nominated for that award. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's why I said it. But I know how Nashville looked. I think Nashville just missed it. I don't think it was malicious. That's what I will say. I think it was malicious in the, like... they missed it.

Yeah. Like, yeah. Like y'all kind of, you know what I mean? But I don't think they missed it. Like, I don't think it was a Turner back to them, her thing. And I think what she did and her impact is already being proven.

No, no, no. I think it's what's, it's just expanded. The business of Nashville just gotten bigger. Uh, With artists like Beyonce, artists like Post. Now, Post came to Nashville and did the whole Nashville thing. The city just... I think he spent that whole album. I spent two or three months there working on that record. But you just see the business of Nashville getting bigger, man.

What I love about it is seeing country getting mainstream moments. Like, when I was on Em's album, that was, like, huge for us as a genre. Because, like, for so many years, we, like... I'll never forget when T.I. got on Brantley Gilbert's Bottoms Up remix. And I was like, this was 2006. And I was like, no fucking way. Oh, rap people know country people. You know what I mean? It was like, no way.

So for that to have went from that to me being on Em's album, Morgan being on Dirk's album, Morgan being on Moneybagg Yo's record. You know what I'm saying?

like these kind of these are the crossovers that are like i think are super cool like whenever i see laney go rock with a pop girl you know what i'm saying i'm just like kick-ass laney kick-ass what's that wagon like in person you asked me that the last time two years later we need to see that before the osep gets in nashville because that thing look crazy

you know what I love about y'all and about pop culture is that's two years old and as soon as I brought up Laney Wilson's name both of y'all were like what's up with the wagon talk to me about the thing oh yeah oh yeah oh she got new ones too nah she don't got new ones it's impossible Miles has been having a question for an hour what do you want to ask Miles upcoming country artists that you find right now that you're like that's the next big one me and Mark this year listened to a lot of Red Clay Strays oh yeah oh I met those guys where at the cellar

Shout out Red Clay Strays, man.

Oh, wow. That's awesome. They had a show here recently.

They're huge. I love the Red Clay Strays. They live in Alabama. Treaty Oak Revival is another one. If you like Red Clay Strays. I'm trying to see who to put on the Spotify. If you like the Red Clay Strays, you'll love Treaty Oak Revival. They're real fun. Their shows are super fun and rowdy. It's kind of got that Red Clay Stray vibe. Teske Brothers? I haven't heard of them.

We got to get Billy Crudup off the street.

Yeah, I keep looking at it like, oh, it's scaring me. I don't even remember what he was in. But I came in and I was like, look, man, we do give away a lot of money. And I was like, I do need somebody to help me. I don't have, I can't, man, I feel so bougie saying this. But y'all will relate because this is just real life. This is how I would talk if we went on a pod.

You haven't heard of them? No, but you'll hit me.

There's this kid. I wouldn't say he's... What about Malone Black? Never heard of Malone Black. Malone Black is crazy.

And I always get in trouble for this, and I double down on it every time because I'm a dumbass. One of them is handsome, and one of them can sing. So you answer me this question. Is Dylan Marlowe handsome?

It sounds like he can sing good.

Okay, so he's not the handsome one. I haven't seen the brother. Okay, no, no, no. He is the handsome one. You're right. Yeah. Now look up Cameron Marlowe.

The other one's just... And I don't know that they're kin to each other, by the way.

That's the one that can sing. And I'm not saying the other guy. First of all, I know them both, and they're both awesome. Cameron and Dylan are great. I do confuse them, and I'm sorry. I smoke pot. But I can name both of their songs right now because he's got that... That dude's right. He's a hit. That kid's going to be a hit.

Dylan is... Cameron is the other Marlo, and he's just got a really big... Cameron's a good singer, but this kid has got a different... We're all singers, and we know who the singers are.

Does that make sense? We know who the singers are. This dude is... That's cool. They all look alike. Cameron's got hits, though. That dude's a great rider. Follow this guy, too. Follow both the Marlows. They're great.

Thank y'all, boys. General615.com. Still got a few shows left. Album out now. Beautifully broken. Please stream, stream, stream. Love y'all.

I just have too much incoming to give anything the proper time it deserves almost. You know what I mean? Like in any major decision. But when I know that I feel like it's been on my heart that I need to give back. So he's so cool. He's got such a big infrastructure for his other business. He'll just put his people on it. Like, you know, we all, you know, go find this is what he wants to do.

He wants to do this amount of soup kitchens, this amount of juvenile facilities. And now it's caused a chain reaction where when I go to venues now, you know how venues give us our gifts when we play these arenas? You've been doing them longer than me. We get gifts. They give you jerseys and a box and all kind of stuff. Everyone tries to give you something cooler in the last arena.

It's the coolest shit ever. But now they'll always all donate a check. to a charity in that city in honor of what they know I stand for.

Don't give it to them kids. The Boston Celtics let me hold the thing.

They got like 18 of them. You know what's crazy? I stood over and took pictures for like three minutes before they were like, you can touch it. I was like, I wish y'all had been finger fucking this thing. It was crazy. Yeah. So now it's become a thing where, you know, so yeah, I have a guy that really, he's a great guy, man. So he helps with that. Cause we try to do a lot, man.

We try to also help as many people.

He's like, I like wearing stupid shit, but that was a little far. That was the best because he'd go, I stand on that one, but yeah, that one was horrible. It's so funny to watch you and him at that moment. No, he was a great dude.

Yeah.

Tell me, dog. Tell me. A real piece of shit. Why? Because we went to that show. The boys did represent on y'all's behalf.

Man, the first thing is, Honesty. Okay. Right? You got to come into both parties honest. How do you talk to Em? Well, so Paul is... And I always bring up Paul in interviews because I feel like he never gets brought up enough.

Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Okay. Lifelong Detroit homie kind of shit. Like really cool inception story. Cool story about Eminem is his... I believe his publicist, his assistant who kind of runs the record label, I don't want to call her assistant because she's so much more. Sure. But he's had like the same four people around him for his entire career.

Wow. Entire career. Amazing. So you don't really talk to, you know, he's the wizard, man. He's the biggest selling artist of our generation. He sold more records than Elvis. You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane when you think about how big, you know, you don't really get to see the wizard a lot, but I've seen the wizard now and hung out with him and he's a fucking great guy.

You know what I mean? He's really down to earth. He's super honest and he's very intentional with his words. And we, I mean, we hung out on video set for 12 hours, just like dicking around to show you his personality. He walks in my green room going, somebody shave me. I need some Gillette. He said, we can get you a deal there. And just fucking funny guy. So that's the first interaction we have.

No, no, no. The first one we have is when we're singing. I'll tell you that story, too. But just let me praise Paul for two more minutes. He deserves it. Paul has always been trying to get me and him together. Like every time I've seen Paul, he's like, if Marshall don't understand anybody else, he's going to get you. When he gets you, he's going to get you.

First, just know, I am a traveling man, bub. So y'all know me in real life. I felt that in my soul, man, because God knows if me and Bunny get a weekend away... Man, listen, I don't care if Jesus comes and asks for the performance. You know how much I love the Lord.

And he's telling me this for like, since I met him when he was working with Yellow Wolf a decade ago. You know what I mean? So like Paul has been that champion for me the whole way. So Paul calls and he's like, send me to save me record. And I'm like, y'all mind if I tell this story first? Cause it's hard to get it. Cause I don't think I've told this one like his.

So Paul calls and he's like, send the stems to the save me record. He calls John Manili, my manager. Now keep in mind, John Manili managed Jay for a while. So they've already worked. They have a real, they're friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 years. So he hits, he hits John Manili. He's like, yo, send over, save me.

I think Marshall wants to fuck with it. And that's all he said. So, you know, me, I'm like, you know how rap works. I'm like, I'm fixing to get an Eminem remix. Like, he's just going to drop a verse in my lap one day. Like, I don't know when and I don't care. Whenever it comes, just thank you, God, you know. And I had already told Kels that story back then. And Kels is a real friend.

You know, where Kels is just like, yo. That's huge. Keep me posted. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's cheering for me. Like, at heart, his heart is like, you know what I mean? Like, yo, man, you don't have a problem. Kel's being MGK. Sorry, Kel's being MGK. He's like, yo, you don't have a problem. So this is like, I probably shouldn't town stamp it too much, but this is 18 months ago. Oh, wow.

So I get to the point, I don't think it's coming. I'm kind of just like, ah, it didn't happen. It's whatever. It works. And then I get the call. It's like, yo, it's going on the record. It's closing the record. I'm like, what? Second single. They want to shoot a video. Now, keep in mind, me and Kels are... We hung out at the Grammys.

We had both lost and we ended up on what we call the loser tour that night. We went to all these like weird, crazy, like Illuminati parties. It felt like it was so fucking weird, dude. And we went to like three or four of them. No, no, no, no baby oil bashes. But I went in and we went to all these weird parties and he had played me the idea for Lonely Road that night.

You know what I'm telling you?

I'm sorry.

Yeah. All right.

How many people do?

There you go. All right.

That's it!

Would you ever get upset at your opponent if it feels like they're just phoning it in during the match?

Do you fuck them up a little bit more?

I connect South Park and wrestling. I feel like I watch both of those.

Do you think the pressure he was putting on you guys was from, like, the old guard that wanted him to do something the classic way?

Now they look scared. Yeah, you weren't worried at all. Shit getting real. Because you're hurting their business, their industry.

Oh, wow. How were they able to give out bigger checks if they weren't doing as much? That's why they're out of business.

So I'm the guy.

So you were a character, but how did you start having so much influence in the creative? Like when did they tap you?

Was this all on your dime or was this WWE?

Yeah. That's fine.

how do you have that talk with talent where it's like, if you think it's in their best interest for you to go away and have the audience miss you for a while, like, how do you have that talk with?

I thought you could take him, bro.

Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, sir.

I'm sorry. You say the pendulum swings. I was a big fan of the attitude error. Where would you say you guys are at right now? As far as you mean? Like, is the WWE in the second coming attitude era or playing it a little sick?

Very last question. You guys are under the same umbrella. Are we going to see any UFC guys make that jump into... You know, you might.

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Fancy.

Hey, hey.

Oh my God.

You could have let it go, but you didn't.

Ooh.

Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Sorry.

That's what brought you out of it? Like, the idea that, like, you're going through, like, a complete breakdown or whatever, but you're still like, I can't get a fucking parking ticket.

Main thing was the parking ticket. I almost shit my pants.

Make me another drink.

I gotta be on this parking ticket thing. I'll say there's a baby, whatever. But the parking thing. In fact, he's in the car still.

Yeah, it's fine. And so, yeah, I'll always be your friend. How did you handle the eating late at night thing? Because I can do- I love that he goes right to eating late at night. Trey is just going like, wait, let's talk about- I'm still stuck on that because that's what always happens. I was a fat kid and I've been up and down my entire adult life. I'll do great throughout the whole day.

Were you, like, doing morning radio is what you're doing in this thing? Like, you're promoting shows and shit? Fucking funny would that be.

Yeah, my mamaw just called those nerve pills. Right.

Like Percocets and Oxycontins too or whatever. The great thing about these is they're not addictive. You can take as many as you want. And then, you know, my entire culture died out.

I would love to continue with the pill quiz. Do you have more? Because I feel like I could ice the pill quiz. Dude.

I'm not a big breakfast eater. I'll have a light lunch, a reasonable dinner, and then I'll make it through the entire day. And when I stand up from the couch to walk back to my bedroom to go to sleep at night, I so often take a detour into the kitchen and spend 15 minutes eating Girl Scout cookies in the dark over the kitchen sink by myself and just ruin the whole thing.

It's going to take me a minute to get there.

And then wake up the next morning like, why did I? I do that. But then I do it again the next night. I don't know. Late night food is just, it just hits different.

I'm not basing it on your face. I'm basing it on the drinks that we have that we're drinking right now. But based on that, I'm going to say yeah.

Yeah.

That's what I wondered too. Like, so do you have, did you ever like make an ass out of yourself at some big thing like that? Because you were hammered, like in front, you know.

No, Obama was president. George, but Jesus. When did you guys start Well Read? 2016, the end of the Obama era is when I met you and did Burtcast. Obama was president twice or once? He was at the end.

So yeah, I have two. They're 12 and 13. Oh, 13. Yeah, white trash. I started early. Where are they living? In Alabama? No, they're here with me. Wait, are you out here now full time? Yeah, I'm out here. I thought you were just, you know, it's like obviously they live with their mom. And they do, but I also live with their mom because I'm married to their mom. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you.

Just last year, finally tied the knot. That's not true. We got married the year the first one was born. But I'm from a family, like every man in my family drank and everything, and it was really never like... They weren't breaking shit, throwing shit out of windows or being abusive or anything like that. It's just like I'd be like...

My dad would be having a cookout with all his buddies in the middle of a raging thunderstorm. And they're all like hammered and making burgers and shit and laughing about it. And like as a kid, I was like, this is fun, but I'm also scared. But like, but it never got.

Yeah.

But yeah, but I also like my kid, like I try to, you know, I had the same thing where it's like, I wouldn't, you know, I don't like drink around them or whatever, but the older I get, if we're like out somewhere and I want a drink, I'll have it because Bert, you asked like, would you have a, cause you know, I still kind of subscribe to that whole like, uh,

If you're going to do it, do it with me or whatever. Do you know how many people do it? I just feel like they're going to. I know their blood. They got trash blood. I'm sure they'll dive into it eventually, and I just feel like it's better to be open and realistic.

He's like, you know what?

He said he wasn't driving. It could have been anybody. This whole thing in front of our face? This guy over there could have been driving?

I've always marveled at that, because being from the rural South, I'm not even from a churchy family. And I just told you, every man in my family drank, and everybody knew it. But not when everyone was together, because it was like, you don't drink in front of me, Ma, or whatever. It's disrespectful. So we all pretend not to drink when we get together for the holidays. Leanne. That's like Mormons.

Leanne, get the fuck in here right now. We're not even religious. It's just like a cultural thing.

Right. There's like an old joke in the South. It's like, why do you always go fishing with at least two Baptists? Because if you only go with one, he'll drink all your beer. Right, so it's like if there's no one, they won't drink in front of each other. We also, my dad owned the video store in town and like the back room with the curtain on it, you know, the porno room or whatever. Oh, really?

Kept the lights on in there, but like, and it was all, like all these like, it's like my dad, you know, harbored all these secrets and shit because all these different denominations of Christians would come in there and like, If someone else was in the video store, they had to pretend to be interested in the new Adam Sandler movie or whatever it was until they left.

And then they would go back there and come up with the big porno selections.

Uh, actually, no. I guess they kept me off of it pretty well. I was still doing the whole, like, somebody's stepdad had left out a cache of porn or porno mags and that type of thing. Someone found some in the woods.

No, I know. It's like a drug addict staying over at a friend's house and they know that they've got a script for some kind of Benzos. I'm that way if there's a bag of Cheetos in the pantry or any kind of shit like that. I just can't be in the same place with it or I will ruin relationships.

Porn in the woods. It's such a wild phenomenon. I guess there was just generations of uncles throwing porn out in the woods specifically. Yeah. And people always found, we're industrious, man. We always found it.

Right, well, my wife just recently found a... She was, like, looking through the text message of my 13-year-old or whatever and found this whole, like, a group chat with other middle schoolers. And it was just, like, it was just a bunch of, like, dick jokes and stuff. Like, a lot of talking about dicks and eggplant emoji and that type of shit. And she was, like, you know, mortified by it.

And she was like, can you believe this? And I was like... Yeah, yeah, I can believe that. Yeah, they probably don't even know what they're talking about. I remember when I was 13, like, we were monsters, man, with all that type of shit. We didn't know what we were talking about, you're right, but we still talked about it all the time.

Like, you believe a 13-year-old boy is talking about dicks and stuff, and I'm like, yeah, of course I can. but she only had sisters, you know? So it's like, I feel like it's a... It's like making out with a Mormon. I feel like I understand.

It's like, I don't know, you know, it's like if we just had girls or whatever, and I like read through one of the 13-year-old girls' text messages or something, and I was just like, yeah, it seems like... they want to destroy Rebecca, like, emotionally. That seems weird, you know? And she'd be like, nah, it's just what they do. You know, so.

do penises have bones? Nope, no dick bones. That's part of what would make it so funny.

Well, I know this is fucking wild or whatever, but it's true. Like, I did not know until... So I have two boys, and I did not know until I had them that, like... boners are a lifelong phenomenon. I did not know that.

You know, but I'm, well, maybe not lifelong. I'm sure I'm running out of strength.

Right, but like. I ain't know about baby boners, is all I'm saying.

Okay. So I actually have wondered about this, and I've heard other people talk about it, too. I think maybe Sam Morrill had a bit about this, but I've always wondered about this my whole life.

Like, me and my good group of friends, right, growing up and, like, from middle school on, because one of them, one of my buddies, we'll call him, well, we'll call him Rooney because that's what his nickname was, but Rooney, he had a... We'll call him Bert. It's not his real name, but anyway.

He had Cinemax and a, like, hard-working single mom who was gone at night. Oh, God bless those hard-working moms. So...

Right. But we would all watch Cinemax together in the same room as one.

Yeah, right. And just, you know, go to town, not on each other, just in the same room while we're all present. Because it's like it was a matter of both convenience and necessity. Right? So I'm saying it's like, did everybody do that? No.

I thought that might be the answer.

Oh, that was nothing, dude. That was just a Saturday night. We'd do that, and then after we were all done, we'd, like, make each other pass out, like, choke each other out. Did you do that? Did people do that? No? Also?

We would do that.

Me either. We used to look at somebody's butthole to see if you could see a fart coming out. We did that. Do you ever light a fart? I'm oversharing too much. We try. We can never make it work.

Really? I guarantee you I could. If I have to fart, I will let it fart. Believe me, we tried. A bunch.

Also, like, we never had that kind of result.

I'm way more comfortable with that combination, personally. No shirt, no pants? No shirt, no pants.

Yeah, right. I know it's the opposite. I know you're a professional.

I can't believe I did that in front of Brandon.

Which is something that is very... Also, man, I'll just tell you, not to get too real with it, but my mama's an absentee pillbilly, right? So, like, you know, she partied hard, too. Loved her Yerks and Oxys and all that stuff. But also, she just... Wasn't really around much. My dad pretty much entirely raised us or whatever. So I'm just saying it's like, and my dad, he liked to party.

Yeah, no, I rationalize it because I'm like, ah, it's just like weed, except it doesn't make me commune with the void for eight hours. It's like I don't lose my mind when I'm on it, but it's just a plant. It's just a plant you do plant stuff with.

But he was there and he was great. So I love and miss my dad. They both passed? No, my mama lived forever, bro. She'll outlive us all. But yeah, I'm just saying it's not. It's about more than just that. It might be someone who's lived and experienced it.

That's hardcore.

So you have caused so many post-PTA meeting fights.

I'm certain of that. All the dads love you. All the moms are like, you can't talk to that motherfucker anymore. You guys like caprese? Yeah, you said that's vegan?

Cashew cheese? Cashew cheese?

It's okay. I like to experiment. I'll switch it up. I'm a human garbage disposal dude. I don't give a damn. I mean, I, you know, prefer the worst things imaginable, but I'm also down with... What do you cook? I mean, I cook all kinds of shit.

Yeah, or any Reddit page.

I don't exclusively just do like, you know, like my in-laws, it's nothing but like a crock pot with various quantities of like cream cheese and cream of chicken soup and some kind of meat and maybe some noodles and that type of shit. It's like I try to freshen it up a little bit and do like real stuff, but I also will eat an exclusively beige plate, you know, just fried bullshit.

Like I'll eat trash. I just try not to only eat trash. So I like, like I said, I don't discriminate. Like I'll eat, I'll eat the gayest foods imaginable level, but also.

Right. But yeah, I like it all. It's just the fat kid in me. What was the fattest you ever were? Well, I think the fastest I ever was was definitely like as a child, but I was like six or seven inches shorter than I am now. So like the weight doesn't translate. You know what I mean? Like when I was like middle school age, I mean, I don't know. I was probably 150, 160 pounds.

But again, I'm like five, three to five, six or something. But that's definitely the fattest I've ever been. But as an adult, the fattest I've ever been was during COVID. Like a lot of people, let myself go, got into bread, started watching British people make cakes. Oh, shit. Sourdough? Yeah, sourdough, a mother, yeast mother, whatever the fuck they're called, all that stuff.

All that shit and ballooned up to, I think I got up to, like, 240. For real? Yeah.

Yeah, but, brother, you're one of those, like, you got that, you got that, like, hard.

You're like, I don't know, you have a shirt off all the time. It looks great. I look like fucking, what's his name, Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King boxer?

I look like that. Oh, for real? Nowhere near as badass as that. I'm just saying I'm like doughy like that. Doughy and lumpy and shit. You're like, you know, you just got like a big ass belly that people love. Yeah.

You had beardless eras, didn't you? Yeah.

I think it would just, you would change the way you're talking about stuff and the stuff you're talking about, which would make a difference. Because, yeah, I think people think, like, the idea of, like,

you just being burnt but you're fucking shredded up there and it's the birth everybody knows it's so cool right it would it would play a little differently it might you know but like if you went through the process of getting actually shredded the stuff you would have to say about that and the way you would talk about it would be funny in its own different way i think i think i'd figure it out so yeah right that's what i'm saying yeah i think i figured out oh this looks so fucking good and you did i cannot believe you just put this together

Because it's also, like, it's hard liquor, cocaine, cigarettes, coffee. It's like, and he eats, like, a grapefruit every five hours or whatever it is.

And I know Burt, you're a big believer in the whole Mickey Mantle gene or whatever, but to me, it has to be something to that when you look at a guy like Hunter S. Thompson, because I'm like, I don't understand how you... can not only exist, but be, like, productive and everything while living life that way.

Yes. Well, that's more than just a garnish. We're talking, that's a fresh basil. Yeah. Fresh basil. That's bringing something to the table, bro. I don't know, Stace. I think what we do.

That's doing some work.

It's not just like, you know. What's so funny. Shit on the side of the plate.

I mean, are they putting her on the 20? They're probably backtracking that now, I would imagine. The what? Harriet Tubman on the 20. Oh, that was a thing. I know, I'm saying that, so that's, that ain't, they've X-nayed that. Not as far as I'm concerned. I didn't know if it was moving forward. Not in this term, probably.

Real quick.

Love him, you know, tells it like it is. He's a strong personality, drying in the swamp, you know, switching things up. No, man, I think he's an apocalyptic dipshit, but we ain't got to get into that. Apocalyptic dipshit? Yeah.

Life is fleeting.

I was going to ask. Do you have one?

So I never... Up until like three, four years ago, I never wrote it, wrote it. But I have started doing that now because I can feel my memory going. It's like probably all the Kratom and Reddit and fucking vaping and shit. But either way, I just...

Yeah, yeah. Is it like addictive? Because people say that it's addictive. Yeah, like you get addicted to the pain or experience of it or whatever.

They've got a lot of... Yeah. So how long ago was that when you got that tattooed? Nine years ago. Okay, and now, nine years later, you still love that one in particular? Yeah. You're like, oh, this is great.

I agree. I feel like, you know, you got to figure it out, dude.

God damn it. And I got a YouTube special coming out on 800-pound gorilla on March 13th, so whenever this comes out, so also soon, called Trash Daddy. So, yeah, check that out.

I can't remember stuff the way I used to, so I have recently started, at least like bullet point things, you know, if not word for word, but I never used to do that, but I feel like I have to now.

But do you not have things that happen where it's like you come up with something like that, and you're like, oh, that's definitely going to work, and then it just doesn't at all? Or then also on the flip side, you'll have throwaway shit that you just kind of throw in on a lark?

And then that ends up being like...

Like legs working?

Wait, what? Losing a parent, you get a free moment? Like if you dream about them. If you have a dream and they're in it, you get like this. No, man, I honestly, like, I'm not super big on, you know, dreams and reading too much into them. But when I was 18, my grandpa died. It was like the patriarch of my family.

And I had a dream where he came and picked me up in a car and we rode around and he gave me like life advice. And it like literally like changed the way I looked at a lot of things. And I still think about it to this day. And that's just my brain helping itself out. You know, I don't think he came from the ether or anything to do that.

You felt it hurt? Oh, yeah.

I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real?

I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real?

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Really?

Man.

No. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

23. 25.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. No, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

These are all the aborted fetuses that have ever been aborted.

Yeah. All life matters. It's like, didn't you just kill me? Well, but... Well, hold on.

I lay under your bed. I don't want your parents to see me because I'm afraid they won't let us play anymore.

I have a new game we can play. We have to wait until after your mother comes to check on you because she can't see us play it. It's a secret game.

No, seriously, just take this hammer and hit her in the head five times. It'll be fun.

We have to go to the room at the end of this hallway.

Come on.

I pretend that there's a big soft trampoline below this window, and I jump. If you pretend hard enough, you bounce back up like a feather. I want you to try. You should totally kill yourself. I don't think I'm gonna... I don't think it's a good idea. No, you should totally just jump out this window and kill yourself. Mom! No, just do it as a fun game, I swear.

Like a feather.

Well, that's all part of the fun. It wouldn't be fun if it was just only a short drop. If it were that way, you may as well just bounce on a real trampoline. We wouldn't want that.

No, I'm just saying that it's totally gay.

Just stop being gay and just jump out this window.

Here are some things you could use to practice before I start giving you lessons.

I think you're actually kind of a not very well put together person. Come on, seriously, just juggle these sharp rusty knives. Don't be gay.

I want you to try it.

I can't! I'll get in trouble!

I don't know what for. You are very, you are unappreciative. I mean, I'm so sorry. I just, I can't do it. This is kind of weird. Fuck you.

Tell me. You're not fine, whatever. You're just not cool, I guess. You're just totally not cool.

You're freaking me out. No, whatever. I'll just chill under here. Well, let me come with you. No, you just stay up there. All right, well, I'm sorry.

This is an important path. I've had a lot of friends about your age. When they were ready, I took them down to this path to a special place. You weren't ready yet, but one day, I hope to take you there.

Just do it.

You know, if that's what a couple agrees with in their marriage, then that's their business. She went to Robert and she said, this needs to stop now. And he said, oh, we're just having fun. Hi, baby.

BNSF put out a reward, you know, if anybody knew of anything. Silent witness, that type of thing.

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Hey, good guys. Love you so much. Josh Mazel Tov. I'm the new baby. And Ben, how are you? I wanted to ask you how you are because in the last episode, you said that you would like to start hearing us asking you how you are in the speak pipes. Anyway, I have a question for you, something that I want to know your take on.

So my boyfriend is Jewish and as am I, and he has a younger sister who she is 16. And she, when she was 13, she had a bat mitzvah. She had like the huge, you know, blowout party thing. You know how they do it now with the up-and-coming? They do it with these 13-year-olds. So she had the big bat mitzvah, and then now she's 16, and she is saying that she needs to have a – or she's turning 16.

Does the galaxy have two times speed, Josh? Yeah. And honestly, like, I just think that's absurd. Like, I think that objectively. Cut it off. Cut it off.

I got it.

That's right, yeah.

I'm over here living. It was a good series too. I mean, Thunder, Thunder calves was a good series.

Yes.

Seafoam!

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

I don't know.

Oh, I didn't take you as a chocolatey guy.

Just let Kevin in the house. He'll set it up. He's very excited about it. Don't you worry about it.

Let me see the room.

Fucking play that.

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Andy Bullock.

I'm glad they understand that.

I was like, damn. Holy shit.

It's like a montage every day. Like, wow! Look at this!

She's been dead.

Him fucking a hillbilly girl? Little known secret. I'm actually heterosexual.

You wouldn't even believe this thing, man. This is a danger. He's a crazy driver. I know the killer that's inside him and he's nuts.

Buddy, listen, if I could bring back a zombie, I'd be doing it. I'd bring back my father-in-law because he was the best part of my wife's family. I need the paperwork or I'm taking you fucking in.

Groundhog chili.

Here's the deal. You have to understand. She's the most mature woman I've ever met. 14 going on 40.

And you were like, yeah, thank you. What if Satan made his own garbage pail kit?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think there is.

Yes.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last podcast. On the left.

Yeah, fire.

I am the god of hellfire. And I bring you fire. I bring you to burn.

Yeah, they take naps and eat spaghetti.

God damn it!

Oh, God, my butt is hard. Marcus, is that cancer? Do I have hard butt disease? Is this the beginning of me turning into stone?

Wow. So wet. Because there's fish and there's coral and seaweed here in heaven.

At first, when you meet Beetlejuice, you are charmed by him.

Yeah. Yeah, these waves are really wild out here. Yeah, Chad.

Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Wow. What a tunnel. Wow.

I can't do it when I'm sitting down.

I was a barber on Pluto. Yeah. I was a bike messenger on Jupiter 2. And I was just old Chad. Matter of fact, just here on Earth.

And I invented the yo-yo.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm Slugworth.

Yeah.

Thank you, Mr. Man. Yeah, you're right. Hey there, little boy. I can't even know what you're really good at. Tying them knots. You want to go see a Broadway play with your favorite scum god leader? All you got to do is sit on my lap here. It's called time travel training. We're going to turn whittling into diddling. Have you ever heard of a little thing called the twist? I'm going to do it on you.

We'll get your insertion patch.

Yep, absolutely. He's the only one who can hear me do it.

Now you just sit there and watch me dance.

Yeah, sorry. I'm not Chubby Checker. My real name's Big Fat Mr. Domino. No. Unfortunately, I have not been training you for time travel. I have been molesting you.

You told me that the fucking man on the moon was inside the moon when he was in the bunker?

I just saw your piece on the chief of police standing up and talking about this issue. What's lacking is an ICE person standing next to him shoulder to shoulder. So he's talking the talk, but let's hope he walks the walk and hands these people to ICE when he's done with them because we can remove them not only from the community but from the country.

And if law enforcement officers don't help us do that, we're certainly going to do that starting January 21st.

When Westbrook is playing this many minutes, it's going to be hard to rack up assists. Yeah.

Because he's open a lot, and he'll shoot it when he's open. And he airballed that one.

Well, that's the crazy thing. We're talking about all the help they're sending at Jokic, and he's still only getting three assists.

Nuggets in seven. Wow. Okay.

Sure. Number one, Mr. Nugget is a funny nickname. You don't think about it until you hear it on the broadcast. You know, we all know Aaron Gordon is locked in with Denver. They love him there. He lived in a gym. Now he can shoot threes. So his nickname is Mr. Nugget, which is hilarious to hear on a broadcast. Mr. Nugget.

Also, David Adelman makes me think of Shadrach by the Beastie Boys because he is madder than Mads, Alfred E. Newman. Yeah. He just looks like such a mischievous little kid. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a 61-37 game late in the second quarter. That's a huge lead. That's a 24-point lead. You're not confident going into halftime. And then Indiana went on a 19-2 run after that. So pretty bad. Such a big blowout that I literally turned it off and watched the movie Blowout.

Yeah, I didn't realize it until this morning. I was like, oh, nice. So that was good. But I think the big key here was that Indiana had solutions against the zone that we saw on Friday night from Cleveland. Basically, Evan Mobley is at the top of their 3-2 zone. They figured out if we screen him and roll down the lane, it's all little guys down there. And guess what?

Ty Jerome ain't doing nothing at the rim. Darius Garland ain't doing nothing at the rim. They attacked every switch in the post. It felt like whether it be Siakam or even Obi Toppin was scoring in the post. I don't know if they beat every single mismatch down there, but it seemed like they went at every single mismatch down there. Siakam finished with 21. Turner had 20. Obi Toppin had 20.

I was a little worried early in the first quarter. Pascal picks up two fouls in the first four minutes of the game. He's playing pretty well. I'm like, uh-oh, this could be bad. Yeah. Turns out Obi Toppin leads Indiana in scoring in the first quarter, hits some threes and stuff.

So I just think it's been – this was certainly a dominant performance from Indiana, and I think that their bigs have outplayed the Cavs' bigs for the majority of the series. Now, obviously, Evan Mobley missed the first two games, but he was decent in game three. But in general, Siakam and Miles Turner have been better than Jared Allen, and Evan Mobley had been for the Cavs. That should have been –

Is he seven feet tall?

Darius Garland fixes his hair too much.

There's a play in the second quarter where you can see him putting his ponytail up at the free throw line. Pacers swing, swing. The ball gets to Obi Toppin in the corner. I think the Cavs are supposed to be in zone there because it seems like that's Darius Garland's spot, but he's late to get there, so Obi Toppin drives baseline.

He does the Dr. J layup, finishes on the other side, and then you see Darius Garland finishing, putting his hair up into a ponytail.

What do you think? I think it depends on if Mitchell plays. Sure. He's been their only real source of offense so far in this series.

Yeah, that's exactly right. Julius Randle is having an awesome playoffs. So far, he's followed his best playoff series in the first round. That was the best series he ever had. He's having a better series as we go into the second round here. He cannot make a three-pointer, but everything else is basically flowing for this guy.

I think it was McDaniels postgame said, you put a small guy on him, he's too big for that guy. You put a big guy on him, he's too quick for that guy. He's a walk-and-miss match out there right now. He's playing bully ball. He almost dunked one with his face in this one. Meanwhile, Anthony Edwards is basically a tale of two halves.

As a player, in the first halves of games this series, he's averaging five points per game, shooting 19%. Second halves of games, he's shooting 64%, 50 from three, and scoring 21 a game. And that's exactly what happened in game three. Eight points, two assists in the first half, two assists, and 28 points in the second half.

He basically just put his head down, started getting to the rim nonstop in the third quarter. That really opened up the three ball then in the fourth quarter for Edwards when he was... Swishing them like crazy. These guys are playing great games. Anthony Edwards, Julius Randle, and still in the tensest moments of the game, they're going to swing, swing for a McDaniels wide open three pointer.

You got Julius Randle. Didn't want to pass the ball to Rudy Gobert earlier in the season. Drops it off to Gobert for an and one dunk to throw it in. And then the icing game, icing play of the game, the board by Randle kicks it to Anthony Edwards in the corner. It's like, this is exactly the point. These two guys are doing everything out there.

They're making the role players better and showing up in these games. This was a stealable win for the Warriors. Absolutely. They got a playoff Jimmy type game, 33 points on 26 shots. The guy amped up his usage, looked to be a scorer. Just zero margin for error. So you see Pajemski goes one for 10.

You get a combined nine points and four rebounds from your starting front court and Draymond and Trace Jackson Davis. It ain't going to cut it. You got to play perfectly to beat this Timberwolves team without Steph Curry. And the Warriors played almost perfectly, just not quite there.

I thought the fourth foul was honestly the killer for the Warriors because as soon as Draymond checks out, Looney comes in. That's when Edwards started going to the hoop. I think he had a couple of layups right after that. Another drive got fouled and went to the free throw line. It was just like, oh... Come on, Looney. He ain't a challenge for me at the rim.

So once Draymond got into trouble with number four, I don't know. They were on the line with calls. It's hard to give Draymond the benefit of the doubt. He probably should have had five fouls in this game rather than six. Right.

Kaminga's a guy that can score a 30, and you're like, I see why he was out of the rotation.

They need his scoring. Yeah. They need his scoring, but he brings all the other Kaminga stuff along with him.

He was a clapper. Pull out the brownies. Sometimes it works.

Be creative.

worst stretch of three games that he's ever had. I think he's been under 40% in the field and all of it. A lot of it is the Thunder defense. They're only guarding Jokic for the most part. It's boxes and elbows every single time. Jokic is 11 of 16 in the restricted area. For the series, that's four attempts per game at the rim. He's 25 of 72 everywhere else.

Honestly, haters paradise to see this happen to the Knicks. Tough stuff. People were talking this up as the biggest game in 25 years, and they got smoked, destroyed by the end of the first quarter. Everybody knew, like you're saying, the threes were going to drop eventually. The good thing for the Knicks is that

They've gotten two bad shooting games from the Celtics, and they were able to win both of those games because basically if Boston hits their threes, it doesn't matter what the other team does. Boston is going to win. That has been the story this season. Definitely was the story last season as well. The Knicks defense was not as good.

The Celtics love to do a double screen up top for their ball handlers. The Knicks were pretty good defending it in games one and two. In this game, they were not very good at defending it at all. Towns was just way too far back, basically at the free throw line. So you're given step into a three-point shots to Jalen Brown, to Jason Tatum, guys that want to shoot that shot.

And they made them in this game. I thought Jalen Brown's post-up game was giving the Knicks a ton of trouble as well. He would get down, usually would have Brunson on him in the post,

bash him in them a couple of times they send help swing swing somebody's hitting a wide open three pritchard was awesome and this game had a really good first half finished with 23 but 13 in the first half had a couple assists had a couple of threes catch and shoot drive and kick they were just playing celtics basketball and the jump shots were actually going in so they made 23s compared to 25 through games one and two it's that simple yeah

He's going to have to hit jumpers to be able to beat this Thunder team because they're showing him his defender, a defender behind the defender, and then a guy reaching down, trying to strip it every single time. That's why his turnovers are up. He's got 23 turnovers to just 19 assists. He's throwing passes to nobody.

They definitely played the same style. They were probably smarter about how they went about getting threes. I thought most of their shots in games with one and two were pretty solid as well. Some of them were hurried, but there was definitely an intentional, let's get in the lane and play our driving kick style. They were great. Horford, I thought, was awesome in this game.

15 points and nine rebounds, and he just looked like the fastest guy on the court during the second half because it was like a three parade in the first half, and then it seemed like a track meet more so in the second half, and Horford had a lot of energy to be beating Robinson and Towns down the court.

How often are you seeing Jokic assists where he's just chucking it into the first row? It's happening a lot. In this series, he's completely out of rhythm and he can't make a jump shot right now. His three-pointer has completely abandoned him. He was two for eight in this game, 21% from the series. He's even not shooting free throws well. Was 11 of 14 last night.

He believes in a thing called love.

I think we heard all three guitar solos.

Any other notes? Yeah, I got a couple. You could tell how Horford was fired up because he jumped too early on the opening tip twice. That was funny. How is that not illegal?

Yeah. That's a good idea. You can't just keep jumping. He should have kept coming just every time. Because I think the Knicks did get it, right? I think the Knicks, did they get the tip?

I was thinking about JD a lot every time they would cut to the Knicks outside party, like outside of MSG. tons of people packed and it's right in front of a pickleball club. Like, can you imagine if you made your, your reservation for like four o'clock on Saturday? Like, oh, nice. We'll go down to the club, play some pickleball.

You show up and there's 80,000 fans standing in front of the entrance.

That's a lot for him. He'd taken two in the first two games total. There you go. Okay, so Celtics are still down 2-1, but they're acting like they won the series. Celtics fans. Yeah, yeah, they definitely are. They could be down 3-1 very easily after game four.

That's very good, but he had two big misses. Down four with three minutes and 15 seconds left. He's only shooting 78%. for the series. Sounds pretty good, but he's a career 82% free throw shooter. Never had a season below 80. 74% so far in this playoffs. By far the worst of his career.

OK, all right. No ball balls. Oh, that.

Now I'm getting excited.

And the Thunder are so good defensively that they can help on Jokic and get out to the shooters because they're not worried about him at all. Maybe Michael Porter Jr. can have a big night shooting. Maybe Jamal Murray can have a big night shooting. But last night, MPJ 0-5, Christian Brown 2-9, Westbrook 2-9.

And you got that one right too. Sixers? Maybe like Markel Foltz draft? Maybe? I think it's three times we've correctly called it.

That's a good pick and pay off next time. Yeah, next time. Just get pelted with pickle chest.

The Nuggets blew their lead with Jokic on the bench, and then they lost the game with Jokic on the court. He just has not been MVP level, and it's because the Thunder are such a good defensive team, and he's out of rhythm. Maybe his elbow's bothering him. He hurt it in the first round, but no excuses at this point. You got to make some shots if you're going to win.

They got the Derrick Rose odds.

1.7% chance. There was two Chicago balls in there as well. Wow. Okay, okay. Well, that's fair. Had to round up. Widest moment in show history there. Pickleball? Yeah. A pickleball draft lottery where the Utah Jazz won the right to draft Cooper Fly.

Yeah, exactly right.

I don't remember the deets. They got that pick from the Nets, right? The Suns pick, because I think the Suns pick went in the Kevin Durant trade with Cam Johnson with Mikael Bridges. So yeah, the Rockets getting into the top four with a Suns pick over the Nets would be kind of the ultimate kick in the nuts for two franchises.

Yeah. Atlanta has a 0.7% chance of jumping to number one, but it's an unprotected pick, which would mean the Spurs would get to draft Cooper Flag after having the two previous rookies of the year. Yeah. So that's something that would be interesting.

That was the problem in the first quarter for sure. 25 total points. They should never do that. They should never have a game that quickly.

That was crazy. I also thought, OKC, once we get to the fourth quarter and they're actually learning how to play basketball once again, OKC was much better against the zone than Denver was against the zone. It was zone versus zone. OKC basically playing a 3-2 for most of the time. Denver in a 2-3. OKC, you watch the ball. It's going side to side, side to side, side to side.

Jalen Williams did not score well. at all until he started hitting some free throws at the end, but he was driving the ball, had a couple assists in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Denver, they're just trying to get into the two-man game with Jokic and Murray, and that's bringing Hartenstein and Alex Caruso, who closed the fourth quarter in this game, into every single action.

It's just taking them forever to even get their offense going because they have to fight so hard to even get Jokic or Murray open with those two guys switching screens, battling through. OKC just has a much better game plan for the fourth quarter, at least in this game.

Dort is doing a great job on Jamal Murray, but Caruso's a lot better player. Yeah, right now. No, I think period.

But when Dort doesn't shoot and Dort... And they're leaving Dort, too. Yeah, they don't care about Dort. He outscores him. Caruso can dribble. Caruso can pass. He's a better playmaker on both sides of the ball. He gets steals and he gets blocks. I wonder if he'll get a start eventually in this series or if, you know, Dignal is just like, hey, this is how we play.

He comes in sixth man and plays the entire fourth quarter. I don't know. But Caruso has been awesome. He's been one of the best three players on the Thunder for this whole series.

He just gets his hand on the ball all the time. Rebounds, tip outs, little deflections. He just makes it impossible to play against.

He's future Caruso for sure. He 100% is, yeah.

He's got that beautiful 80s villain side part going on right now, but as soon as he starts hitting male pattern baldness, he'll really take off.

I mean, they've won one in OKC already. They've got to be confident. But OKC has won in Denver, so they're confident. It's a best of three series. And in general, I think Denver is going to out-execute fourth quarters. That didn't happen in game four. So this one still, to me, is a toss-up. Feels like a seven-gamer. I got a ton of random notes from this one. Sure.

We're talking about Jalen Williams having a bad game. I didn't really think so. He couldn't score. That's absolutely true. Two for 13, but six of six at the line. Made the last four for the Thunder. Had five assists. I mentioned how good he was attacking the zone. I also thought he really brought the defensive intensity in the first quarter, setting the tone for the Thunder.

He was guarding Aaron Gordon. Three steals and a block in the first quarter alone. He was all over the place. He just could not make a shot. Yeah, true. which was true for a lot of people. What else? Russell Westbrook was playing on defense on Shea Gildress Alexander at one point, and Mark Jones said, in his chest like bronchitis. That's a good line. I like that one a lot, man.

It's fun to watch it with people who aren't tapped into watching Mark Jones every single night, that aren't watching him on Sacramento Kings broadcast, because then when you hear it, you're like, wow, this guy is line a minute, and it just feels scripted every single one, if I'm being honest with you. Oh, they're scripted, baby. Oh, totally. He's like good defense.

I really like the grift off in the second quarter when Shea Gildress Alexander draws a foul on Nikola Jokic underneath the hoop. Jokic is mad because it's basically Shea uses his off-arb. and shot a layup with his left hand. I think he didn't make the layup, went to the line for two. So the next time down, Jokic is like, they're going to give me the call no matter what happens.

So he just drove it hard and threw up like a falling to the right side thing. They called it on the ground, but they were in the bonus. So we got the free throws.

He was shooting it. Yeah, he was shooting it.

But that's the one where he was like jumping up and down. Yeah, that was the biggest vertical you ever seen from Jokic. He was flying.

No.

Yeah.

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I was like, what?

I'm walking here. Why you got to do that? Wait a minute.

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So can you? Can you though? I don't think so.

Come on!

Hey, if we make a hole-in-one, I just have a weird feeling, boys. Holy... Dude, what quit? I quit life. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this.

Bro. Dude. Bro, I love my group! That is the greatest three... No! No!

Come on, baby. Here it goes, here it goes, here it goes.

That's so far.

What the? Oh, my gosh. Wait. No, no, no.

Tell me, what were the stories?

What aunts?

Auntie Gloria's aunts?

Auntie Gloria reads you books of hers?

What do you mean they're mean?

Books about what?

When did she read them to you?

She would read you books when you were asleep?

Was she in your room?

You were sleeping in your room?

Like what?

What do you mean they would hurt kids? How would they hurt kids?

A belt?

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