Angus King

Well, Joe, you have to go back to what the strategy was at the beginning of the shutdown.

There were two goals, both of which I support.

One was standing up to Donald Trump.

The other was getting some resolution on the ACA premium tax credit issue.

The problem was the shutdown wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically, well, there was zero likelihood that it was going to.

In terms of standing up to Donald Trump, the shutdown actually gave him more power, Exhibit A being what he's done with SNAP and SNAP benefits across the country.

Oh, by the way, Joe, you're going to love this.

Guess who's getting paid during the shutdown?

not the park rangers or air traffic controllers, the ICE agents.

Under special law, under that big, awful bill that they passed last summer, the ICE agents are being paid.

Nobody else is.

So standing up to Donald Trump didn't work.

It actually gave him more power.

Like, what world are you living in?

You've got to have people in your circle who are empowered to, and in fact, in my case, required to tell you when you're full of s***.

You've got to have people in your circle who are empowered to, and in fact, in my case, required to tell you when you're full of s***.

You've got to have people in your circle who are empowered to, and in fact, in my case, required to tell you when you're full of s***.

How are you doing, man? You've had a long day. You've already done about 12 hours on Morning Show. Holy smoke.

How are you doing, man? You've had a long day. You've already done about 12 hours on Morning Show. Holy smoke.

How are you doing, man? You've had a long day. You've already done about 12 hours on Morning Show. Holy smoke.