Anish Acharya

I know it's just, it's such a funny little microcosm of like male relationships, you know?

Are you looking at more hardware these days?

Yeah, we're open to everything actually right now.

One of the most interesting, coolest pieces of hardware I saw recently, we're not an investor, is this company Pocket.

You know, a bunch of companies are doing things like this, these sort of like passive recorder devices.

I know you, Sandbar, I think you guys have invested in one that you're excited about.

It's just, it's really elegant hardware design and also just love that founders are being ambitious enough to try hardware again.

Hardware has all of these like, you know, it's just a challenging place to operate, but founder ambition is higher than it's ever been.

So yeah, we're definitely open to hardware.

I know, I know.

Yeah.

Still, it's just cool that people are building things in those directions, you know?

Yeah.

I also think that you're too skeptical on consumer.

Like, consumer feels like dead, dead, dead, dead.

Oh, my God, it's on fire.

Right.

So I have a history question for you.

When you started Digg, what did the environment feel like in terms of consumer?

Like, did it feel like a good or a bad time?