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Anita Arnand

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Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And it's June 1822.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

Bolivar has entered Quito.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

He's secured another stunning victory in Ecuador.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And he's being celebrated, you know, and there's cheering in the streets and dancing and music.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And he's introduced to Manuela.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And she is young, 25 years old.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

She's got these dark hair, deep brown eyes, born in Quito.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

illegitimate daughter of a Spanish merchant and a woman from the upper classes.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

But despite this stigma, her father had ensured that she got a very, very good education in one of the city's finest convents.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And you're right, she was married to a Brit, James Thorne, a British merchant about 20 years older than her.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

It was though purely a marriage of convenience because it gave her respectability, it gave her financial security.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

Voldemort, then, in the making.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

This is 1822, so not quite Voldemort at this point.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

But she's completely enamoured with the revolutionary idea, even before she meets him.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

And she has been working as a spy.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

You know, I told you in the last episode that women were doing a great job of intelligence gathering for the independence movement.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

She's not just a spy, but she's also actively recruiting men in Lima to desert the royalist forces and join the revolution.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

There's a wonderful biography of Manuela for Glory and Bolivar, it's called, by Pamela Murray.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

She describes how, you know, when Manuela first sees him, she is completely starstruck and there is an immediate affair that begins.

Empire: World History
357. Liberator of Latin America: Revolutionary Hero Or Dictator? (Part 4)

Another Yale historian says that, you know, that Manuela was really not shy about telling her husband what was going on.